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[–] [email protected] 106 points 9 months ago

Participation trophy monuments lmao

[–] [email protected] 97 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If the confederate monument was installed in the 19th century, I’ll hear the history argument.

If it was installed as an overtly racist response to civil rights movements in the 20th century, that shit is racist as hell and needs to disappear from public lands.

[–] [email protected] 69 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Nah. Tear 'em all down. The history can be left to the written word, detailing how they got destroyed. They don't deserve any monument trying to extoll their "glory". Rubble-ize them and put up memorials to the slaves in their place.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 9 months ago (1 children)

A collage/university in the UK (unfortunately can't remember which one) dealt with a similar problem well. It had statues of the founders out front. Unfortunately, they made their money from the slave trade. There were calls to destroy the statues. They instead, moved them to a small, half forgot garden in the back. As well as their original descriptive plagues, some more were added, explaining how they made their fortunes, and the various moral failings we now see in them.

It seems to me like this struck a good balance. It acknowledged the good they did, while emphasising the bad. Failing to recognise both good and bad can occur in individuals is often how history can repeat itself.

In short, don't destroy them. Instead, stick them at the back of a museum to the horrors of slavery, half forgotten, except for their crimes.

[–] stoy 3 points 9 months ago

I like this approach, if we destroy the physical object, the history books will have less impact for future generations.

Add info about what horrible things they did, remove them from their place of honor, and put them in an alcove of shame.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago (2 children)

No. Preserve them in museums as a reminder of what can happen.

History should never be destroyed, but that doesn't mean it has to be celebrated.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

I vote we melt them down and recast them into statues/memorials for civil right's people. at least the bronze ones.

maybe even southern civil right's people.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Your monuments don't matter you fucking losers.

  • a northerner

*Edit monuments not moments lol

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago

Couldn't agree more

~a Texan

[–] [email protected] 35 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The Daughters of the Confederacy can eat shit.

Oh, hell. I'll link to it again. Fuck the South.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I wish I saved that meme I saw responding to "confederate statues are my heritage" with "destroying the confederacy is MY heritage"

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 9 months ago

Hey Corey, your monuments don’t matter.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Sure is weird how these people are obsessed with being traitors and also think they’re patriotic.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

"thE PArtY oF LIncoLn" waves the flag of his enemies

- these fucking idiots.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

It's hilarious to me that redneck conservatives love to wave the flags of the Confederacy and the Nazis - the recipients of the two biggest beatdowns in US military history. Losers in every sense of the word.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Look up " The Daughters of the Confederacy". The monuments aren't even historic.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

Well the are historic in that they're a part of the history of oppressing black people that continued after the Civil War. But doesn't seem like history someone in the South should want to celebrate.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago

The loser ones dedicated to the slavery loving losers who fought and LOST against the u.s.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (9 children)

Is yankee offensive? I am british and have called americans "yanks" for the past 10 years at least... Should i stop or is it ok?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago

It's only offensive to people from the southern US, but they're offended by a lot of things so who cares?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Nah. It can be used derisively but isn't in and of itself offensive. You're ok. Good on you for asking though.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Confederate-wannabes can try to use it as an insult but that doesn't really work. I take it as a point of pride over them.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

I think you are okay, guvna.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

You should keep doing it. It's funny.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

Not offensive, but others may feel differently.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Meh, in Tennessee a local bar has the Confederate battle flag on the wall and I have heard in there several times that all Yankees should be shot, referring to anyone from the north. The issue is that people have moved around so much there are from the north in the south and vise versa. New York and California are the most hated states by many southerners.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It is used in Latin America as well as a serious denonym/gentilic. Though it can be used derisively, I'm assuming it's the same over there.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

In Australia the term is ‘Seppo’. Seppo / septic tank / yank.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I prefer to be called yankee doodle /s

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

This sounds dandy.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

Hey, us white people have suffered, too - like, they took away our slaves!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

Imagine you go back to the 1860s and you see a cohort of this capacity start something. No wonder they got their arses kicked.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

I wish I could filter rage bait like this off my dash

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Participation trophies, don’t they hate those?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Hey Corey, deine Monumente sind bedeutungslos.

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