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A woman in Florida says her 55-year-old “medically fragile” father was falsely accused of theft at a Florida grocery store last week and then seriously injured in a violent encounter with police. Now, she says, he is hospitalized and has lost the ability to speak.

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[–] [email protected] 163 points 6 months ago (9 children)

We don't have police. Just corporate enforcers. Pinkertons in different uniforms. Oh, you are accused of a 17 cent theft and didn't do it? Eat lead I guess. I'm just so tired.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 6 months ago (2 children)

If you get your house broken into, or your car stolen the police can't even be bothered to pretend to care. They treat your theft like an inconvenience to them and will tell you there's nothing they can do.

But if you're a corporation, they'll rush right over and cripple a shoplifter for stealing a banana.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Hey now, they also specialize in oppressing minorities.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 6 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago

Lucille, is that you?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago

All this for a misdemeanor.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago

There's always money in the banana stand.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

There seems to be a lot of gaps in that timeline in the 1800s, wonder what they were doing then 🤔

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago (4 children)

SCOTUS: processing, processing, processing…..

Complete! If you don’t like it then just vote in a different police chief or mayor!

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Blame boomers and genX. Black/brown ppl have been preaching about police brutality for decades. The only reason they weren't beating the shit out of white ppl then was they where middle class. Now that everyone is either rich or poor they're coming for the rest of you.

It took cellphone footage for ppl to start believing and by then it was too late to do anything

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[–] [email protected] 113 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

She said he told her that he picked up four bananas, one of which he ate on the way to the register, and that he told the cashier that he needed to pay for four bananas even though she scanned only three. Anjelica Lee said her father told her he was followed closely while he was shopping by a white female employee, who, she said, accused him of stealing the banana he ate.

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“At first, I was trying to ask her what happened, and she was like, ‘People like you and him shouldn’t come into the store if you don’t have money to pay for things,’” Anjelica Lee said. “My mom is white, and my dad is Black. So I’m mixed. So I think she meant Black people. And it just escalated from that, and she went to cussing me out.”

JFC. Racist piece of shit.

Fuck the cops. Fuck this piece of garbage cashier.

Fuck all this.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 6 months ago (1 children)

No no no, the cashier wasn't the one who followed him around the store.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Yee. Fuck the police, ~~the cashier~~, and that employee too

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Wow. Non American here. My kid regularly eats while I shop. I just bring empty packets to register for them to scan and they normally throw them out for me. No problem. Like zero problem.

I don't even think our police would show up if they were called. They take 3hrs to turn up to a home invasion, so I doubt they'd show up for a banana. This is a crazy level of policing.

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[–] [email protected] 85 points 6 months ago (1 children)

“At first, I was trying to ask her what happened, and she was like, ‘People like you and him shouldn’t come into the store if you don’t have money to pay for things,’” Anjelica Lee said. “My mom is white, and my dad is Black. So I’m mixed. So I think she meant Black people. And it just escalated from that, and she went to cussing me out.”

You can almost guarantee the victim will be Black.

Every. Fucking. Time.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago

Every time. Every. Single. Time. For real.

[–] [email protected] 69 points 6 months ago (4 children)

A police spokesperson said Monday that the body camera video would not be released until the cases are resolved.

That could take years! That's unacceptable.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 6 months ago

They are hoping that by then people will forget about it and not notice when its dumped so theres no outrage.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 months ago (2 children)

We need a national oversight agency where all this footage should be sent to so it is managed by a neutral 3rd party. Why the fuck would we allow criminals to manage the evidence against themselves?

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago

...presumably because it's damning.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

I the rules for body cam requests in the city I work for. It can only be denied for the following reasons:

  1. The video was taken in a private home and the homeowner does not consent to the release.

  2. The video is of a non-jailtime citation/interaction and the principal civilian captured on film doesn't consent to the release.

The second one is because the city is a tiny enclave for the super-rich (average new home is about 6 million dollars), and there's celebrities and stuff getting pulled over pretty often. We had tons of ORRs from paparazzi for all incidents.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Even if he was justly accused of stealing a banana, what in the actual fuck?

[–] [email protected] 29 points 6 months ago

Police in the US escalate situations instead of de-escalating them. In any country this would have been solved after a short conversation.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Someone needs to ship a ton of bananas to the police everyday until the body camera footage is released.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Isn't Florida that state that releases everything?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago

Yes, though lately it's been taking a lot longer. The state government under 25 years of GOP rule isn't too fond of the Sunshine Law.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I see they opted for the Israeli definition of "measured and equitable response".

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago

Reminder that the IDF trains US cops. Palestinians are used as guinea pigs for policing techniques.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 6 months ago (3 children)

In the US steal a banana get paralyzed, somehow private property even if just a banana is worth more than people

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago

He wasn't even stealing anything. It has nothing to do with theft and everything to do with his skin color I guarantee it.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Well bananas are like $0.53 a pound, $.065 for the organic ones. So it is a pretty clear case.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I actually think they are $10, Michael.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 6 months ago
[–] [email protected] 31 points 6 months ago

Hey morons, that Monty Python sketch about defending yourself from being attacked with a banana by shooting the attacker was supposed to be a joke.

I sure hope they disarmed the guy.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago

The cops’ report noted that she “struck him in the arm against his will”.

I am absolutely fucking disgusted by this weasely use of language

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (10 children)

Did anybody read the article and see the part where she were threatening the employees with a bat and admitted to it?

I think they’re sort of burying the lede on this one.

I would completely expect the police to show up, armed and ready for someone who did just receive a call about threatening people with a metal bat.

Fuck the police and what they did to him, but let’s not pretend like this isn’t a whole other thing than the headline.

That being said, can anyone tell me what the cops did to this dude other than make him sit in the back of a police car I very well might’ve missed it.

The latter part of that article go wild

[–] [email protected] 30 points 6 months ago (3 children)

To answer your question on what the cops did:

Anjelica Lee said. “My dad said to me: ‘Don’t get out of the car until they can fully see you, because they’re going to shoot.’ And after he said that, nine or 10 of them jumped on him, and then they slammed him on the car.”

She said she could hear her father screaming: “You’re hurting me. I can’t breathe.”

This is all from the woman's perspective. But it sure seems suspicious that he had chest pains that the police's story can't explain.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago

And kidney injury, supposedly.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago (4 children)

She said she feared for her father’s safety, so she got a bat from her car, approached the woman and told her to “pick on someone her own size, someone able-bodied.” She said she did not threaten the woman with the bat. Still, she said, the woman called police.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago (10 children)

If you walk up to someone with a bat in your hand and tell them to pick on someone your own size, you are threatening them with the bat.

If not to be a threat there is no purpose to bring the bat

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago (4 children)

From her account the Karen in the store had already laid hands on her father at this point and was then continuing to follow and harass him. Sounds like self defense to me.

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