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Helldivers 2 Says 'We Really Applied Ourselves to Not Make It Pay-to-Win' (www.ign.com)

submitted 6 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 6 months ago (1 children)

and yet it has DRM to prevent people from skipping past the grind in a pve game.

[+] [email protected] -24 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Ok...but you don't have to pay to skip it so...whatever.

Game looks boring AF anyways, as do most shooters. W+left click+new pictures= fun apparently.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago

Malware is malware.

They put a rootkit on your computer if you install their game.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That drm prevents linux support so I guess it's a non issue to me either way.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Works on Steam Deck with no tinkering. I think Linux support is good.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

How well does it run on the Steam deck ?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

I haven't messed with them a ton. I am running a mixture of medium and low settings and getting 35-40 FPS. Battery life is about an hour at full charge. It's playable and fun but hopefully they will have some optimizations eventually.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Huh it was borked when I last looked and doesn't nguard not work on linux? I couldn't find any statements by the devs. I have a feeling this is more of an oversight then them caring about linux players.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

It runs, unless you have very high-end cards where users are reporting crashes. The fix is to restrict FPS to keep your GPU mhz lower. Mostly AMD people but I have seen complaints from a couple team green too.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

Any form of taking money inside the game is the same abuse.

A sharper needle for smoother insertion is not better.

[–] Blxter 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Also from the review I watched there are skins/Armour that give buffs in game that cost real money and guns that can be bought... can be "earned" witch I love but I don't love that it affects game play

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The first one did a really good job of having an interesting range of guns and abilities which were very well balanced. There was no 'best gear'. I'm sure they're able to have things worth buying that don't give you an unfair advantage over people who haven't. It's a morally hazardous area though.

[–] Blxter 2 points 6 months ago

It is that slippery slope that I am not ok with. For example I am not exactly ok with other games gives XP boost or weapons, materials, etc in a season pass.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The game is absolutely not pay to win in any way. I don't know where people are coming up with this.

The "buffs" on armor are all the same (seriously, look at all the armor pieces you have), have no advantage over anything, and are more just flavor than anything game breaking or actually OP.

The paid currency can easily be earned in game.

There is nothing pay to win about Helldivers 2.

[–] Blxter 8 points 6 months ago

Paying to advance or get "gear" that does anything more than change looks is pay to win

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Forgive my ignorance, I thought the game was just PvE? So people are paying to advance faster?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

There is artificial grind that you can pay past, it also has drm to protect the sanctity of the pve multiplayer according to the devs. Most people think it's to protect the $$ from the microtransactions.