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Minnesota burglars are using Wi-Fi jammers to disable home security systems::undefined

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 6 months ago (2 children)

So setting everything up wired with PoE was a pain, but worth it.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago

This, but don't forget to plug the router to a UPS!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

A pain and obviously I wish to never have a use for the recordings….

[–] [email protected] 27 points 6 months ago (2 children)

They can't do that, it's illegal!

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Can't we make crime illegal already?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Maybe not in Minnesota??

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I guess if you're going to break the law anyway what's one more lawbreak. But I thought the FCC actively tracked down people using illegal frequency devices?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago

thought the FCC actively tracked down people using illegal frequency devices?

It depends on the frequency being deployed. Shit operating in the ~2/~5 ghz spectrum doesn't travel far at all, so unless an FCC agent is directly nearby when they're doing this, it's not going to be detected by them.

However, if you're illegally blasting in the <1k mhz spectrum, that does travel far and more importantly it interferes with common bands used by public safety, air traffic controllers, DoD, etc (ATC is around 100mhz, public safety typically around 800mhz, DoD around 300mhz (although this varies)). That interference will definitely start being noticed and it's a matter of time before you're caught.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

I'm pretty sure those jammers (they saturate wifi band with trafic) are used only for burglary time, say 10-15 minutes, and very local, so the neighbour million$ mansion is far enough that they are not affected. How come FCC detect this?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The FCC knows where my microwave is?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

You bet they do. They have trackers in every microwave sold. That's how they track Taylor Swift to influence the Russians. -s

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

"Minnesota"? Everyone, c'mon

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Don't many of the wifi cameras include local recording to SD cards?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

Sure, but I wager many folks go with the easiest route and just rely on cloud storage or possibly local central storage.

Regardless, hardwire is best for any "critical" system to avoid shit like this. I've been telling my family for years that once common criminals adapted to the times, people with wireless everything smart homes were going to be in for a world of hurt. My reason being that the vast majority of IoT type crap are notoriously riddled with easily exploitable vulnerabilities. WiFi jamming isn't anything new or even complex, but it's just the tip of the iceberg of what's to come for low tier criminals, IMO. We truly are entering the early stages of the cyberpunk era, but without all the cool cyberware implants (yet).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

They may not care about being filmed, so much as being able to call the cops while they're in the middle of robbing you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The article stated that they are watching the homes and going in when no one is home in order to avoid any confrontation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Exactly. They are trying to avoid confrontation, so they don't want people seeing someone on their security camera and calling the cops.

If you get an alert that there's motion in your living room, you may check and would call the cops if you see something. If you get an alert that your camera is disconnected you quietly curse your ISP and continue about your day.