I'm hoping for an interview with an Etruscan king on why Italy has no distinct culture of it's own.
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By Etruscans, do you mean that land-stealing rabble filled with wannabe proto-Villanovans?
Castenaso or bust!!
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are the french in the room with us now?
Gauls*
Don't use such language; there are innocent ears around!
Takes a lot of gall to talk about Gauls!
Charlemagne enters the chat
Wait until Macedonia arrives
All of Europe? Well, not entirely... One small village of indomitable Gauls still holds out against the invaders...
Italy's? Dont you mean Greece's? Italians(romans) were just wannabe greeks, greekaboos. Literally every aspect of roman society is copied from the greeks. And luckily for us, greeks were one of the first people who started writing down shit, in a language we can understand, so there is no reason to go further back.
Its true. Many people believe that anal sex was invented by the italians, but that too was invented in ancient Greece. The romans merely took it and adapted it for use with women.
Twitch that is some damn good bait
If we go back far enough, most countries in Eurasia today belong to Iraq (Mesopotamia) following that logic
Didn't human life evolve in modern day Ethiopian? So technically, every country belongs to Ethiopians and their descendants.
But since all humans are Ethiopian descendants, it should be all good in the neighborhood
Well maybe culturally influenced but Mesopotamia didnt "conquer" Greece. Well Persia conquered greek cities in western Anatolia(Turkey) but that happened later on. As i wrote, before classical Greece, you are basically entering a prehistoric era from which we only have myths and archeological artifacts. What little text we have from back then is either too limited or incomprehensible or non historically accurate(myths).
As far as Greece is concerned, there was the Minoan civilization(in the island of Crete and other islands), whose writing(linear A) has basically nothing in common with (ancient) greek. We still havent decyphered Linear A. They are the basis for the whole Atlantis myth and they were probably destroyed by a tsunami(Santorini's volcano going boom).
After them we had the Mycenaean civilization, which is a greek mainland one. They used linear B, which was between linear A and greek. We have mostly decyphered linear B. Myceneans are the trojan war greeks.
After that we had or maybe didnt have the "dorian invasion"(northern greeks? fucking/conquering the Myceneans??? noone knows), which caused cultural changes and many centuries of "dark age". And only after that we had the classical greek city states and the start of history.
History and national identities are very messy. And once you start going prehistoric, it is even more ridiculous. Which is why every country has artificially created its own national myth/history.
Does the Dorian period occur at the same time as The Bronze Age Collapse?
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If Greeks wanted the glory they should've beaten the Romans.
In your face, Plato!
Instructions unclear turned the Romans into Greeks.
On the other hand, Greeks clung onto the Roman identity for a really long time. And I mean even after being taken over by Ottomans.
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As a part celt I'm waiting for reparations.
I would be satisfied with Ulster, so, if you could have those deeds collated and overnighted to me in the US, that'd be great. Don't forget the mineral rights.
The Roman empire is eternal, after all.
Could there be a small Gaulish village that resists them?
Nah
The Romans had this thing called a fasces that symbolized power.
Maybe we should name this movement to restore the Roman Empire after this?
Fascesism? Not that's too long... Fascism... yeah that rolls off the tongue.
Wonder if anyone has thought of this before?
Sounds good to me. Time to bring enlightenment to the disgusting barbarians once again.
Sorry, but North Africa, Siciliy, Corsica, Sardinia and Iberia all already rightfully belong to the Vandals.
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Jokes asides, revanchism was one of the main ideological engines of the Italian facist party, from which Meloni takes strong cues.
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Well, Rome controlled those territories, so I can see it. Also, Carthage must be destroyed, so…
That's what the salt in Trapani is for...
Can you link to the article? I am not seeing it on Reuters: https://www.reuters.com/site-search/?query=Meloni
https://www.reuters.com/site-search/?query=Meloni+tucker&offset=0
And the picture is from a different article. As is the dateline.
Believe you have found a piece of DIP.
It's not real. It's making fun of Putin's recent interview and claims.
Ah, I didn't see what magazine I was on
Was so incredibly obviously satire as well 🙄
Sooner have people question satire, though, than take it as fact.
Indeed. atetheonion might contain a bunch of idiocy, but i would not be offended by being included there just because i was sceptical of something.
I love your efforts to investigate this. I wish everyone was this critical of random internet crap.
It's a joke
I am starting to think Tucker is not interviewing but enlisting people for his new superpower.
wait, which focus path should i be taking in hoi4?
The ones that leads to the united nations of earth for your Stellaris playthrough
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Italy is the funniest state ever conceived, up above Russia. The war in Ukraine is just Putin trying to take the number one spot.
I wonder how much time would take the president of USA to justify new Mexico, Hawaii and Puerto Rico
Yes!
Damn Tucker Carlson, he sure made a career.
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