Bernie_Sandals

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Which still maker her center right.

Lol no, she and the party are center left, they would not be fighting for unions and universal healthcare otherwise.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (10 children)

I vote my conscience

So you're fine with Trump winning being on your conscience?

Yours is a protest vote against something.

What? Most people voting for her probably agree with at least half of her policy, they're not just voting against Trump.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Believe it or not, conservatives aren't lying 24/7, they actually believe the things they say. That goes for both Pro-Trump and Anti-Trump conservatives.

If you were actually engaging in good faith political analysis, you'd see Harris is significantly more left wing than McCain or Romney.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Have you listened to any of these Republicans who have endorsed her talk? They all think she's wayyyy too progressive for them during normal times, they're not endorsing Harris because she's somehow a conservative now, they're endorsing Harris because their party got taken over by fascists and they're rare spine-filled conservatives.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It also sounds like socialism.

I mean I agree it's a good idea of course. I just wanted to make the point that Bernie and AOC are, in fact, socialists. Way too many people from all sides of the political spectrum think "Oh he just wants to be like Denmark he's not really socialist" or "Bernie would be right wing in Europe" just because the media didn't really ever cover his cooperativization plan or talk of workplace democracy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Yes, he also supports forcefully cooperativizing companies over time. He wanted to create a program to gradually have a federally backed buyout of the largest 1000 U.S companies, with mandatory partial worker ownership of any company over a certain number of employees, and mandatory votes for the corporate boards for workers.

Here was the plan from the campaign.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

Lol, he literally argues for the means of production being owned by workers.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

And the rest of the cabinet will be handpicked by Citibank.

Lmfao

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (7 children)

If they were speaking at the DNC, they were not socialists.

So Bernie and AOC aren't socialists now?

They had more Republicans and cops speaking at that convention than marginalized communities.

Uh? No they didn't? Did you even watch the convention? They had a few Republicans and cops who spoke for less than ten minutes each. Meanwhile they had dozens of women of color, and women's rights were one of the main themes of the entire convention.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

Yes because Republicans from five years ago would definitely have all the largest union leaders and several socialists speaking at their convention.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

The ticket is pandering to progressives as well, there's no way in hell Tim Walz would be going up there and saying Healthcare and Housing are human rights otherwise.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

Her acceptance speech was bog standard for a democratic nominee, she played to both conservatives and progressives. Don't act like she's suddenly now a conservative because she pandered to the military and veterans.

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