CileTheSane

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[–] [email protected] -4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

So if Dick Cheney said "Russia is terrible, you should support Ukraine" you would oppose Ukraine because Dick Cheney supports them?

Opposing everything Dick Cheney does is mindless and is allowing Dick Cheney to decide what you support.

I will not vote for you

I will not vote for you

I will not vote for you

It looks like you're not going to vote for anyone anyway so why should either party care what you want?

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

It's not by chance that in Europe even whilst becoming full-on Neoliberal parties, Center-Left parties maintained a leftwing discourse and would throw a bone to the Left once in a while (say, minimum wage raises) when in government.

Are you talking about nations with better electoral systems that can support more than 2 parties?

Yes, in a 3+ party system Party A moving closer to Party B to take 1000 votes from them but losing 1500 votes to Party C in the process is a bad play.

In a "Winner takes all" 2 party system where the only thing that matters is having 1 more vote than your opponent to have 100% of the power, Party A moving closer to Party B to take 1000 votes from them is a better position even if it causes them to lose 1900 votes from people who now won't vote for either party. Moving further away from Party B to get 1000 votes from people who are refusing to vote is a losing position if it causes them to lose 501 votes to Party B.

In a 2 party system chasing the people who are actually voting will always be twice as good than chasing the people who aren't voting.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

The first step that needs to happen is building up a third party through local politics, not ignoring politics for 3 years and 11 months and then suddenly expecting a third party to become viable.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

we all just missed it?

You missed it. I was well aware of it, and concerns about Biden at the time, and I don't even live in the US.

Not everyone else's fault if you don't engage with the political system until less than a month before the election. That's what this entire post is about.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 weeks ago (10 children)

inability to protect abortion rights

"I was robbed"

"I blame you more than the thief because you should have protected your stuff better!"

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago

"Be more than just orange man bad"

Here's a list

"Kamala bad"

I thought we were asking for more than just "opposition bad"?

But if we're going the "opposition bad" route find me a single item in that list that Trump wouldn't make worse.
You know, the entire topic of the thread: even if Kamala isn't good, Trump is significantly worse in every way, and one of them will be president.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)
  • If the Leadership of Democrat Party manages to whilst refusing to walk back on their active support of a Genocide, win the election with a "otherwise it's Trump" strategy, they will move even further to the Right because that confirms to them that they can do whatever they want and still keep in power.

If the Republicans get absolutely walloped in the election for running a wannabe dictator, it will show them that the extremism isn't going to work and they have to run reasonable candidates to have a chance at winning. Then next election when they present someone who isn't a megalomaniacal idiot who wants to be a "Dictator Day 1" it will require the Democrats to do better and put more effort than "not a dictator."

Letting the Republicans be this close will cause the Democrats to move further right because the leftists aren't going to vote for them anyway, and they sure as fuck won't vote for Republicans, so moving to the right to steal 1000 votes from Republicans is better than moving left and gaining 1500 votes from people who otherwise wouldn't vote.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

https://kamalaharris.com/issues/

Looks like the campaign has a whole bunch of things besides "orange man bad". All there on the official page easy to find.

It seems like someone saying the entire campaign is "orange man bad" hasn't bothered to listen to anything being said and is just focusing on the most salient point in a bad faith effort to discredit them.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago

And the woman in the video will be endlessly harassed by the far-right extremists regardless of who took and released the video.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

It's been quite some time since I did pre-calc, but I remember there being equations where it was relevant that one infinity was bigger than another.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

Can't even blame Blizzard, it's the people who keep buying this shit that are actually the problem.

Por que no dos?

I have room in my heart to hate both groups.

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