@Awesomo85 Rephrase: “As long as we have voting, a little voter fraud is acceptable”. Obviously voter fraud is NOT acceptable, but any system that covers 200 million or so potential voters cannot be completely foolproof. Like security systems, the goal is to have so many different safeguards that the number of violations becomes vanishingly small. The fruitless efforts to find any widespread voter fraud to date indicate that we have been successful.
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@PhilipTheBucket So now we’ve had a couple of these rather amateurish ballot fraud attempts that have been quickly caught and addressed. One has to wonder if this isn’t a concerted effort to further cast doubts on mail ballots. There isn’t enough volume to likely affect election results, but the attempts are making the news and giving republicans talking points.
@oxjox As a practical matter, if any vote other than one approved by the existing ruler is rendered meaningless, one has lost the right to vote. It’s not a vote if only one choice is allowed. Any other spin is just semantics.
@oxjox @kbin_space_program Aren’t you creating a distinction without a difference? If things are “fixed” so that everything will forever remain the way his audience wants it (so they won’t have to vote), doesn’t this negate the right to vote? It seems to mean that anyone who DOES want something different is SOL, cause their votes would no longer change anything. If you don’t have to vote to reaffirm your agreement, you’re in an autocracy.
@sylver_dragon @MicroWave I think your conclusions are accurate, particularly in the evangelical view of Trump as a “flawed vessel” that will still carry their religious water. But what always pisses me off is the absolute refusal of those same evangelicals to even begin to entertain the notion that Barack Obama, or now Kamala Harris could also be imperfect in their eyes, but still be the best choice to lead the country. Their minds are closed and locked.