The criticism is worthless though as 95% of it was applied to every other new Trek to be released

They're not identical though. Just like Lorca was never set up for it.

Fuck Trump and I genuinely hope he doesn't live long but assassination is obscene. First, it's just abhorrent. Second, you'll make him a fuckin martyr.

Either way this is insanity. That shot of Trump bloody with fist up in front of the flag is going to be plastered everywhere for months.

Step the FUCK DOWN BIDEN. You're now an old man stumbling through gaffe after gaffe and Trump was given a massive free PR boost. Not to mention he will 100% use this as justification to go after political rivals.

I'm with you buddy. On pretty much everything. There are things in Rise of Skywalker I like (Rey's new lightsaber is bitching but I also actually do like her taking the name Skywalker) but most of it feels like it was written by 14 people at the same time. But the sequels in general I do like quite a bit. BB8 is adorable, Rey is awesome, Finn is hot as balls, Poe can equally get it and I loved seeing Carrie Fisher back in the saddle

But he was never that. Ash Tyler was the one set up for having PTSD but the only thing close to it for Lorca was when he jumped Admiral Cornwall when they were sleeping together. But at the end of that episode we see him purposefully set her up to fail and then abandon her.

The new Treks are all much more modern and contemporary

As opposed to TNG, DS9 and Voyager using more modern and contemporary filming techniques than TOS? Enterprise going even further?

The underlying topics are much closer to reality

I... what? This is clearly from you looking back, not from you experiencing it at the time. EVERY TREK DID THIS. TOS had an episode aggressively about racism and segregation, not to mention the Uhura kiss in a time of extreme racism against anyone black and the civil rights movement. TNG had an episode about deafness being a part of his race but not a disability, a couple of years after Children of a Lesser God was released. They also had multiple episodes about genetic alteration, something that was just rising to prominence in reality with GMOs, engineered drugs and the first time animals had their genes changed. I mean even Barclays holoaddiction was a BLATANT comparison to the rise of video games at the time and worries about becoming addicted to it. The complaint that its "much closer to reality" is completely void.

It is a completely different category of show

The exact same complaint was made against TNG and DS9 but now both are under the same category. The category is Star Trek. Not Star Trek that feels a certain way. If it is Star Trek then it, by default, is in the same category.

I'll agree on the bit that different Treks feel different but I outright reject the notion that due to a different feel it doesn't get to be classed as Star Trek. Once again. Star Trek gets to have diversity in the numbers through characters, races and species. Why are the shows not allowed the same?

Up until Lower Decks, no Star Trek show had a good first season. Most of them had a rocky second as well. Also why I balk everytime someone says "Yeah I watched the first couple episodes of the first season and gave up." But you sat through the first season of TNG and the first 3 of Voyager with no issue?! Seasons that are twice as long?!

Yup. Proudly love the Sequels too. There are some flaws in them, don't get me wrong, but it's new Star Wars that expanded on what we got. Personally I found that a thousand times more interesting than the endless void of fanfiction being peddled as 'believe in whatever you prefer!'

. It’s the 23rd century, people should not be uncomfortable with their identities anymore

And people are totally comfortable. I am guessing that you're referencing Adira and their reaction to announcing that they're non-binary? That didn't happen in the 23rd century. It happened in the 32nd in an area torn with strife and isolationist behavior that is also not a part of the Federation. Their reaction is appropriate for the setting. There's a reason that Culber and Stamets are gay without addressing it. Because they are from the 23rd century where that isn't an issue.

For fuck sakes, the ship itself starts having an identity crisis at one point.

.... It's a newly born AI that is being threatened with being severed from its physical housing. Yeah I feel like that's kind of appropriate as well. I mean when they did that in TNG there was Measure of a Man... so...

(until they did the haha he’s actually super space Hitler rug-pull)

My guy, they had him admit to blowing up his own vessel and killing everyone on board. He openly ignored Starfleets protocols surrounding new life and sentient life by sanctioning the effective torture of a creature to power the spore drive. He rejected admirals and went against their orders frequently. He slept with a gun under his pillow. He was shown to be collecting torture implements that are psychotically illegal from the entire galaxy and having a creepy room filled with those implements that also happened to have its own independent brig.

It isn't much of a rug pull if you looked down at any point...

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He was also gathering navigational data the entire time and actively punched in extra coordinates into the Spore Drive from the Captains Chair. He then gave a long stare into the camera and said "Lets go home".

• He was exceptionally pragmatic in military strategy which isn't so common in Starfleet in general.

• The season is also littered with mirror imagery. First time Lorca is introduced is through a reflection in his window. Stamets has his mirror moment in episode 4.

• He's also littered with scars, including ones that are consistent with the shape of an Agonizer. He showed extreme interest in someone willing to break one of the biggest rules in Starfleet and used his power to pull her into his reach through some wildly sketchy means.

• The light sensitivity wasn't an obvious one as it was a new thing, it was used to canonize why all the Mirror Universe episodes in DS9 and Enterprise are dimly lit and darker, but even that hints that he's not 'normal'.

• He also behaved weirdly with Admiral Cornwall who knew him well and she even mentions that he's not the same person she knew.

• He actively set her up for something he suspected to be an ambush and then refused to go save her despite risking the ship repeatedly before. Something Saru even questioned at the time.

• He's even eating the same food that Burnham is served in the Mirror Universe.

Like I said. Isn't much of a rug pull if you look down.

Yes. There are people on this community who frequently complain about the show. One dude was outright banned because he refused to accept LD as canon or any animated show as canon while being hyper dismissive and aggressive about that stance.

They're out there and they're not that unicorn-esque. They just generally don't say anything because they don't want to go against the grain. Same reason why the people who loathe Discovery are multiple factors louder than the fans. Anytime I said I liked Discovery on reddit I got jumped by every Trekkie who claimed that I clearly wasn't a real fan.

Maybe it’s simply that the format changes a lot.

Then that makes the complaints even more pointless. If the format and style of the series changes continuously then what basis do people have for whining that it "doesn't feel like Star Trek"?

I feel that frequently a lot of complaints about the show are directed towards the entire series as a whole. That Discovery doesn't fit for whatever reason. Yet these people are the ones who are wrapping up so much variety throughout the shows to one 'feeling' and when it doesn't fit they check out.

Yeah, if you don't like that style that's perfectly fine. Personally I don't like the style of DS9. But I'm not out here saying that because it's different than what I am used to and what I like that it "isn't Star Trek" or "doesn't feel like Star Trek."

I've said this before but Star Trek shows off diversity through as many aliens and characters as they can. Why are people so angry when the shows themselves do the same thing?