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[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Also HK is a city while mainland encompasses poorer rural areas

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Interesting, do you know any literature that talks more about this?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

The system working as intended.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

I think a decent measure is GDP growth rate divided by GDP per capita. I don't have the numbers on hand but China is above average in both absolute and PPP.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago

Lack of public "third places", car-centric infrastructure and lack of mixed-use zoning, lack of communal living, etc.

"Why are men so lonely?"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Yeah for sure, almost all of the US' most impressive accomplishments were state funded. Privatize the profits, socialize the costs.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

This might be a hot take here, but for all of Elon's overhyped flops like the Hyperloop and car tunnels, the Falcon 9 does have the lowest launch cost per kg out of any rocket and is the only family of orbital rockets with a demonstrated reusable propulsive landing system. That's not to say they'll have the lead forever since there's a fundamental limitation of private enterprise, but currently they're ahead in several important ways.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It would be hilarious if there's a repeat of the Cold War arms race, but the US goes bankrupt this time

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This admittedly sounds really familiar though. Did you post it on (a certain reddit sub)?

No, but if there's more than one therapist giving that advice that would be super wack

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The Wandering Earth 2 is not simplistic and you’ve probably missed a lot

Probably. I'm definitely not too knowledgeable about cultural allusions and stuff, and I basically relied on the subtitles. I must admit there's a gap there. Westerners often praise Liu Cixin for having great ideas and plots but criticize him for having flat characters and uninteresting dialogue. Idk how much the translation has to do with this and how much this even affects the movie since it's only loosely based on the short story though.

I also have no clue who the two people you mentioned

李荣浩 and 薛之谦, their top songs have 100-200 million views on YouTube, the most out of any Chinese artist. They're incredibly popular in Taiwan, Singapore, and the US amongst ethnic Chinese. I'd be surprised if you haven't heard of them.

Phoenix Legend or Li Yuchun

Mind sharing some recommendations?

I think you discount the lack of exposure

Yeah I'm not denying that this is major factor. I think The Wandering Earth 2 should've been as popular as any Hollywood blockbuster. But I do have my reasons why I think it's "merely" a very good film instead of a timeless cinema classic. Perhaps like you said it's because I'm missing stuff due to the language barrier.

a lot of this post sounds like lack of cultural self-confidence on your part

True, that's what I hope to cultivate some day.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I really hope they look to other countries for better inspiration. India for example has incredible music and movies.

Yeah strongly agree here. For all its diversity, Western music is fundamentally limited by it's reliance on the 12-tone equal temperament system. The systems they use in Indian and West Asian music are ways to surpass that and add additional complexity.

A critical weakness of traditional Chinese music is overreliance on the pentatonic scale, which is even more limited than the full set of 12TET notes. I think it's cool and all that there's a renewed interest in Chinese folk music, but I think it's incredibly misguided how some people think it represents a "renaissance of Chinese music" or that it should be the defining characteristic of Chinese music. To build their own modern musical identity, they must look to the future, not the past. And cultures other than Han Chinese and Western would be a great place to look for some inspiration. Of course it's not my place to tell Chinese people what they should or shouldn't do, but from a semi-outsider's perspective, that's one place where I'd start looking.

 

We can see the cracks starting to show in US military and economic hegemony. To be sure, they're still the most powerful country in the world, but they can obviously no longer take on the rest of the world combined like they could in the 90s.

But more insidiously, the US still seems to be the hegemonic hyperpower in terms of cultural output. Even countries that are geopolitically at odds with the US happily and ravenously consume its art, entertainment, and literature, and to a lesser extent, those from loyal vassals of the US such as Japan, south Korea, and Western Europe.

It's not just due to reach. I feel that cultural output from the US (and vassals) is genuinely more creative, technically advanced, complex, innovative, and prolific than cultural output from the rest of the world. As someone of Chinese descent who doesn't strongly identify with American culture, this weighs on me heavily.

I'll compare American and East Asian cultural output since that's what I'm most familiar with.

Hollywood cinema is obviously the gold standard the world over. American films such as The Matrix, Blade Runner, and Fight Club are full of symbolism, innovative cinematography, and complex narratives. Korean films such as Snowpiercer, Parasite, and Oldboy are not far off. In comparison, the top Chinese movies such as The Wandering Earth 2 and The Battle at Lake Changjin are rather simplistic and don't necessarily have a lasting cultural impact, even in China.

Chinese TV is pretty good, with hits like Nirvana in Fire and Reset. But there has been no Chinese series with the wide reach, critical acclaim, innovative and sophisticated narratives, and lasting cultural impact of American series like Breaking Bad, Star Trek, The Sopranos, and Friends, or Korean series like Squid Game. The average Chinese person has heard of Friends, but only a vanishingly-small number of Americans have heard of Nirvana in Fire.

Chinese pop music is largely samey-sounding ballads. Listen to one of the songs by Li Ronghao or Joker Xue, and it could've been released today, a decade ago, or two decades ago. In contrast, Western and Korean pop music are constantly evolving and trying new things. Even more creative Chinese artists like Lexie Liu, Hyph11e, South Acid Mimi, and Absolute Purity are largely following established trends and not really setting new trends. Chinese music has no answer to jazz, rock 'n' roll, hip-hop, and house. The most identifiably Chinese music simply uses traditional instruments, but there's nothing particularly groundbreaking or creative about mashing folk instruments with existing pop music. K-pop, J-pop, and even LatAm, West Asian, and Indian pop have immediately identifiable sounds, whereas most C-pop sounds like it could've been made anywhere at any time. C-pop has little appeal even in places like Hong Kong. If you look at the HK charts, they're dominated by foreign artists like NewJeans Jungkook, Yoasobi, and Taylor Swift, with a small handful of HK and Taiwanese artists, but not a single mainland artist. That seems really shameful to me.

Japanese manga and American comics are considered the gold standard, with Korean manhwa a solid third. Meanwhile, Chinese manhua suffers from amateurish art, clunky pacing, unlikeable and selfish main characters, and boilerplate, tropey plots. If you thought isekai was overdone, wait until you see the endless cultivation stories in manhua. It's kind of embarrassing, really.

It's a similar story with literature, video games, and animations.

So, why is there such a large discrepancy in the quality of cultural exports coming from the US, Japan, south Korea, and Western Europe vs the rest of the world? Is it simply that these countries are richer so more people have the opportunity to pursue art, and studios have larger budgets? Is art like technolgical advancement in that you have to build up the know-how from the ground up? Or is there some cultural or governmental aspect in countries of the International Community™ that genuinely fosters creativity?

People often talk about this in terms of soft power, but imo what's even more important is cultural self-confidence. If domestic art or art from friendly cultures is good enough to satisfy one's own needs instead of having to import everything from countries that want to subjugate your own people, I think that would greatly boost collective well-being, sense of identity, and mental health.

On a personal note, this has been a nearly obsessive worry of mine for the last year or so. I've tried talking to a therapist about it but they just suggested that I try to stop identifying as Chinese and start identifying as American. Not very helpful advice. I don't really have anyone to talk to this about, so I hope I can start a discussion here.

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It seems like in the last few years, the cracks were really starting to show in American dominance. The bungling of the COVID response, the BRI and BRICS chipping away at US trade and currency dominance, the failure of Ukraine to repel Russia, inflation and shortages in the imperial core, etc.

But it seems like many of these cracks have been patched up this year. I’m not sure how much is just propaganda, but economic indicators show that inflation in the US has cooled, unemployment is the lowest and the labor force participation rate is the highest they’ve been in decades (even accounting for underemployment/gig work), and real wages have increased amongst the poorest and richest alike (albeit unequally so).

US energy prices are dropping. US oil production is at an all time high, and the US is refilling its strategic reserves at a lower prices than it released them for. OPEC can’t retaliate without taking a huge hit to their economy.

Infrastructure, historically a big issue for the US, has been looking better as the Biden administration passed several huge spending packages to improve train networks and other things.

Ukraine is losing but the US has only spent a small fraction of what they did in Afghanistan, and they’ve debt trapped Ukraine in the process. The Israel-Palestine conflict has certainly turned sentiment against the US but it hasn’t resulted in any material change in relations.

China’s economy is stumbling; although there’s not a recession per se, unemployment is sky high, consumer confidence has taken a hit, and investment has slowed. Interest rates are about 3.5% in China while they’re about 5% in the US, which means China has less room to perform expansionary monetary policy than the US.

The US seems to have gained ground in trade relations. Several countries have pulled out of the BRI. Countries like Mexico, which for a while had China as their biggest trade partner, once again have the US as their biggest trade partner. FDI in China has slowed. “De-risking” and “friendshoring” have started yielding results. I know in the long run this will also weaken imperialism as it develops the productive forces of countries like India, Mexico, and Vietnam, but it might take a long time; even highly-industrialized countries like Japan, Germany, and south Korea are still subservient to the US.

People have completely forgotten about the US’ shit COVID response, but Chinese citizens still bear resentment towards Xi and the central gov for the zero-COVID policy, and the uncertainty over lockdowns was a contributing factor towards the reduction in investor confidence in China.

So overall, things don’t look too bad for the US, while they’re looking a bit uncertain for the other emerging “poles” like China, Russia, and the Middle East. I suppose the silver lining is that a lot of these gains came at the expense of gutting the economies of “allies” like Europe and south Korea, which means that the US won’t have as much to easily prey on next time.

What are your thoughts?

 

I saw this comment on Reddit by an expat living in China that had me a little worried. I know a few points are BS, such as the comment about the size of Russia's economy, but how about the overall trajectory of China's economy?

::: spoiler comment Anyone who tells you that the economic situation in China is "doing fine, especially when compared to country X" is either a troll, a paid troll, a bot, or has been drinking the CPC Kool-Aid.

It's difficult to summarize it in one cohesive post, but I'll give it a try.

In essence, China's growth model has been unsustainable for at least 20 years, and evidence suggests they plateaued 15 years ago. Any development after that has been at the cost of increasingly expensive malinvestments than the actual ROI.

Part of the issue has been the obsession with maintaining a high GDP, often for no reason other than allowing the responsible officials a fast track for promotions. The use of Local Government Financing Vehicles to shore up cash for civil services worked only so long as property developers were willing to pay for land-use rights, which was only possible so long as there was cheap capital available to borrow, and people willing to pay for apartments that might be finished six years down the road.

This made up 30% of China's total GDP. And all of it is gone now.

The housing sector itself is in a permanent state of decline that simply cannot recover. Ever. There are many reasons for this (as mentioned in the paragraph above), but also because of China's current and future irreversible population decline. There are simply not enough people to actually move into these overpriced bricks of concrete, and there never will be.

Covid didn't cause the collapse to happen, but it accelerated the inevitable.

It's quite telling just how bad the situation is when realtors aren't even allowed to lower the prices of apartments they can't sell, because if they do, people will begin to realize that the value of the apartment they poured their life savings into is much lower in reality.

Anyway, I digress.

The property sector's ails are not the failure of Xi Jinping himself. The issues stopped being manageable at least 15-20 years ago, but no one had the foresight or political clout to do anything about it. What Xi has done, however, is bring politics back into the fold in China.

Much like Mao in the mid-60s—fearing that the CPC was losing its grip on the population—decided to fuck things up with the Cultural Revolution.

Granted, in Xi's case it hasn't been quite as bad (yet), but the censorship, the oppression, and the propaganda, have been ramped up during his tenure. Anything that doesn't adhere to the traditional values of communism has been scrubbed at an increasingly fast rate.

The crackdowns in China's tech sector have been ideologically driven, and it has been incredibly disruptive for China's most agile and competent privately-driven sector, far more than the tech war with the US. Wolf warrior diplomacy siding with Russia and creating an 'alternative' global order are all based on a very absurd and quite unrealistic idea of China's power, or at least the power they think they have.

People who have lost their jobs during and after covid have a hard fucking time finding a new one. We're seeing salaries being pushed down HARD, especially for new graduates, and the number of unemployed youths is so bad, that they simply stopped releasing the data.

Just like we can be sure something isn't true until the Kremlin has denied it, so can we be sure something isn't bad in China until they scrub the existence of it.

Talk to anyone on the streets of Beijing, and they will tell you things are tough right now. And people in Beijing are the ones who are the lucky ones.

I mean, sure, we will still see new fancy stores opening up, office building being built, and fancy G63 AMG's on the road. But that doesn't mean things are well for the 1.4 billion people in this country.

Whenever we look at broad questions like this, we tend to view our own (highly anecdotal) bubble as proof that something is either good or bad. The overall prognosis for China is bad, really bad.

But that doesn't mean it will "collapse." Not even Russia has collapsed after having the toughest sanctions in history slapped on their Italian-sized economy.

It just means we'll see years, perhaps decades, of negative growth in China, increasingly authoritative measures taken by the government, more protests, more suppressed protests, more people with opinions disappearing, more brain drain, more kindergarten stabbings, more music with revolutionary themes removed. Year by year, things will be a little worse off than the year before. More people will give up and lie flat. The only movies in the cinemas will be about the Korean War, and the only things on TV will be anti-Japanese shows or wuxia palace dramas.

It will be a descent into authoritarian conformity. In a sense, this is also a collapse.

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