VictimOfReligion

Under the context of Zardoz it is about killing being good and reproducing being bad, tho. Also,ain't hornism a consequence of different capitalist industries, being everyone, including liberals, victims of?

Under a capitalist / classist system? Yes, it will go full Zardoz, with floating faces saying "the gun is good, the penis is evil", and cultist running with Beach-Borat with boots - like outfits and all, but I can't see how under a communist system this can in any way become bad.

There's a lot of Judaist sects, and like the Christian ones, "only my X version of Y religion is the correct one". Apply it also to the ethnicity, culture, and whatnot, and voilà, Theocracism.

I'm more into things like Jojo or Vinland... But once again I'm more of a Manga enjoyer than an anime fan...

But yeah, pretty much, sadly.

While I'm starting to remember what you said abour Sargon and all that as correct, the thing about Zoroastrians, is that they were in great consideration and loved and admired by a lot of people by their teachings, but never held a propagandístic teaching, and was ethnocentric,meaning that the responsibility of adoration was over the Persians themselves, but that salvation was universal, for Ahura Mazda would save everyone good enough, and who were not with redeeming qualities, sent to hell to purify themselves, and then go to Paradaija(the word Paradise is from Persian origin, yes), because the main perpetrator of wickedness is Angra Mainyu, the rest are victims (which, by the way, the notion we have of Satan is also copied from Angra, sincr Satan was literally just a god of judgement to see if people were actually good or not).

Ah, yes. Zoroastrianism is also escathologic, and wait for a savior born from a Virgin, without sin, to form an army to destroy Angra Mainyu once and for all, so Ahura Mazda can make the Earth into a paradise. Pretty much like Deutero Isaiah.

Assyrians perdured too, but they were culturally converted already into neo Babylonians, and then when the Persians came, the people regarded Cyrus the great like a hero, since it was the first emperor to abolish slavery since the conception of religion in the middle east. There was also a sort of "super proto socialist" revolution in some Sumerian city-state, but it falled rapidly to Sargon of Akkad, tho. (If I remember well). Meaning that it was anecdotal.

Ah, and it was during the Zoroastrian(Persian) influence that the Hebrews started to bootleg monolatry.

And don't forget they will never bring how this is the result of theocracism opportunists seeking power with fascistoids, and how this shit is pandemic. And how hate-speech is protected under "religious freedom" too. Because its foolish as fuck trying to ignore this too.

But a new East Germany would. Ah, the consequences of sucking US dick... A classic.

Marxism is not more popular in the west, wtf is this idiot talking about? The west mostly have Anarkids and Frankfurter Suckdems, which are basically chauvinistic racists that want to portray themselves as "holier than thou" because they are "protecting" the minorities they are part of or are trendy while at the same time shitting in the ones they aren't part nor trendy.

Ah, and full of idealist nonsense.

Really, fuck them.

Can't believe that gringos will get left enough to stop being simply blue MAGAs

Edit: just to be understood. I'm not claiming that believers deserve the wall de facto, and I even know that the first victims of religion and who face the class struggle, are precisely the believers the same way people living in the imperial core are victims too.

I'm sorry, but those believes aren't separated from protecting the same church. The problem with religion is that they are ideologies, and those ideologies have the first primal indoctrination that affects even to non believers, that is that the institution must be protected at all cost, even from itself, in a really very simmilar way that capitalism has socdems and fascists. They are very different in the outside, but they have the same purpose.

And another thing, is that the institution isn't bourgeois, it's theocracist.

Right now is in bed with the bourgeoisie because the later is what it has power. Historically, the church was in bed always with the system and power that was dominant and at the same time, struggling to attain absolute power, being in an friendship/rivalry the same way today the nobility and aristocracy is in bed with the bourgeoisie.

BTW, I don't know what a "reddit atheist" is, but it sounds to me like "the good socialist is never "radical"", "the good feminist is the one that doesn't accuse men for everything", "the good union is the one that allways collaborate with the boss", "the good atheist never speaks the harms of religion". Can't you see the pattern, comrade?

You cam argue that depending on context you may talk to them to letting it go (I did, I could make some children think about it and they really stopped being fascists, don't know how much time, but at least something), but liberals will never understand context and how counter measures work.... Unless it is for their own benefit.