Thank you for the suggestion! I'll see about implementing this in a future version, unless someone else gets to it first
here is the issue I made: https://github.com/cynber/lemmy-instance-assistant/issues/53
Please let me know if the issue is missing a part of your suggestion or if there was any misunderstanding
Yep I think the defederation point is the big one which causes the idea to break down. I'll edit the post to better reflect my thoughts now
That's a problem everywhere, but I've found that people are a lot better on here about downvotes?
On Reddit I'd see comments and questions with no replies and only downvotes. Here you're a lot more likely to see responses
Thank you!
Hope it helps :)
Look, honestly: if you want Facebook ot Twitter, go back to them.
This post was to talk about the merits/drawbacks of a potential change, and the constructive comments on the post have been helpful for that. Some of the other 'solutions' that have been posted here feel even more antithetical to the idea of decentralization (ex. redirecting upvotes, having communities follow other communities) so I was looking for a compromise that would address some of the annoyances without making the site another centralized platform. The intent was to allow users to choose how they want to link cross posts together, rather than having the community (or an app/frontend) make the decision for them. We've also been seeing users naturally gravitate to a few instances/communities, so I was looking for ways to redirect some of that traffic back to lesser known spaces.
Regardless, I appreciate the comment. Reading the perspectives on this post helped me see how locking the post completely would cause more issues and annoyances than it would help with. A simple "we are discussing X over on this post, feel free to join" seems like the better compromise.
that's fair :)
Everyone who's subscribed to the same communities will see all of each others' comments.
This still relies on everyone using the same app/front-end.
I guess I'm thinking about how it would be helpful in more general cases. If someone has an issue with a FOSS app, and they ask about it in two small communities, it would be much better to have the troubleshooting discussion in one place rather than have both communities missing part of the context.
Ultimately in your example, the user can still make both posts, this doesn't change that. It just directs the comments to one post's comment section rather than having it spread out.
Still it's good to think about cases where OP tries to abuse the system. Would a good middle ground just be the first implementation then? For OP to link to the post that they want to be the main discussion thread, but people are free to ignore that if they want.
I agree, instance assistant (our extension actually!) handles this, but it would be much better to have it exist natively.
this proposal would give more controls to the bigger communities
what are the concerns that come to mind?
I’d rather just have different communities
All the individual communities would continue to exist as they do right now. When it makes sense for a post to have a deeper discussion, users can lock and redirect accordingly
This works for viewing all the comments so far, but it doesn't solve the discussion aspect since commentors from each community won't be seeing or responding to the other comments. This is a bigger issue with smaller communities, where they'd mostly be top level comments / chains with minimal depth from each smaller community. Yes you can see all the comments, but the discussion quality is poor.
It's also not as helpful when the automation fails. Something I've found is that the 'crosspost' field starts to get crowded on posts that link to a popular website. Combining comment sections from ALL of those posts isn't as useful as having some intentional action from the OP.
A key aspect about this proposal is that it requires the OP to do something. If it doesn't make sense for a community (ex. different intents behind the Politics communities), then OP shouldn't lock their post. If OP does it anyway, then you can downvote that post.
I've been working on the [email protected] extension :)
RES initially helped me get into Reddit, so hopefully this helps people get into Lemmy as well
I think the issue here is
It makes sense to hide read posts on the main feed, but not when you're looking at a particular user?