logen

They are on you and you alone. You can choose to work at some job an employer offers at whatever deal you agree to, or you can run your own business.

Just because an employer has a say in how much they pay, doesnt mean you can't go a different way.

Of course the easy way is cheap... If employers are the complaint, create your own income streams.

Fair enough, but I suppose it doesn't really matter for the poor.

If there's not cheap labor, prices will have to go up, so really, cheap labor or costly labor, either way, the poor person on the bottom is still the poor person on the bottom.

You mention grass, but just take all the made in china stuff. That's all about taking advantage of cheap labor. Everyone seems to have a phone these days, even the poor. Maybe, if that wasn't the case, we'd have lots of jobs that pay well, but that still results in higher cost of goods so no one is really doing better because of it.

Outside of technological advancements, I'm not sure how it's possible to pay low skilled laborers well. When you increase the cost of basic labor, the cost of basic goods go up with it.

Yea, I can see this. I could also see a white-list style federation. I think either is fine.

OTOH, I'm not sure having closed circles is all that bad. It's how we used to do it anyway. Wanna chat about motorcycles? You didn't go to some site that has everyone talking about everything, no, you went to the motorcycle forum. And if you found that you didn't work with that group, you found some other motorcycle forum.

Sure, it would be nice to have an online forum where everyone can go and speak freely, but that place needs to be specific to that. Federation is probably not the correct answer for this.

If anything, the problem is probably more with the Republic concept rather than democracy. Democracy has its problem of that the minority always loses, but Republics... That's just putting power into the hands of the few. Which tends to come back to the wealthy.

Jobs don't exist when people don't create them. It's not business owners' fault that the majority of people would rather take the easy route of working for them rather than run their own business. They are literally helping people survive that cannot survive on their own merits or are too lazy to bother. Your earnings and earning potential is your own business, not anyone else's.

So yes, people can create their own jobs, it's how it's been most of human history. The employee employer relationship, as it is now, is pretty recent.

Wut?

Everyone likes cheap labor. The poor like cheap labor because it keeps prices down. The rich like it because it keeps profits up.

Fair to you then. Unfortunatly, every town of meaningful size will have tons of people you disagree with. Best of luck!

It's more like, "I'm not going to hang out in this town because there is a club I don't like over on the other side of the city"

Pretty sure y'alls were/are on reddit. Plenty of turds you're eating aroud there...

OBVIOUSLY there are some religious ppl who are by the book and hate

Wut? I'm pretty sure the book doesn't preach hate.

Cant you just block the offending subs instead of the whole instance? Except for two subs, it's pretty tame over here.

Lulz

Diceware and a notebook. Otherwise, yea, what everyone else said.