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I'm done, I've been banned for expressing a different opinion (without insulting or personally attacking anyone), I've been accused of evading a ban with multiple accounts (this is my only account I've ever had on any lemmy instance), I've had people selectively ignore my comments and accuse me of things which I never said, and I've had people ignore valid criticisms and keep attacking me.

Reddit has many issues with trolls, one-sided discussion, and just general bullshit, but many Lemmy instances are way worse. The newfound freedom of Lemmy has attracted many extremists, from both sides, and many of them are moderators, who are more than happy to remove any contrarian opinions. This results in discussions being echo chambers

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I'm not posting here to argue politics, so I will abstain from replying to your political views.

This is about the removal of comments (not just mine, either - several other people's in one of the threads I linked) and banning of anyone who disagrees with specific views, when those comments do not otherwise contain rule-breaking violations, aka no personal attacks or insults.

Do you think such removal and banning is justified or helpful? If, for example, your comment here was removed and you were banned from participation, would it encourage you to change your mind? Would you reconsider your views? I am willing to bet it will not.

If you disagree with someone's opinion, feel free to downvote it, and block the user. You are not required to argue against every single person who you disagree with. However, by removal and banning, the mods have removed the possibility of anyone engaging in further actual discussion.

And if that is something you disagree with (meaning you think the mods are correct in removing such comments and banning the users) then you are fundamentally pro-censorship - censorship which is a huge step in helping spread propaganda.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

I found this just now after searching for related topics. This is still going on, my comments were removed and I was banned from two different communities for daring to say both Hamas and Israeli are bad (when the comments I was replying to were only blaming Israeli)

Censorship is very much alive across lemmy, and certain communities definitely seem to allow only one viewpoint to exist.

I made a summary where you can see my comments which were deleted and for which I was banned, and judge for yourself: https://lemmy.world/post/12344087

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

80 steps too far down the capitalism ladder

This is the result of capitalism - corporations (aka the rich selfish assholes running them) will always attempt to do horrible things to earn more money, so long as they can get away with it, and only perhaps pay relatively small fines. The people who did this face no jailtime, face no real consequences - this is what unregulated capitalism brings. Corporations should not have rights or protect the people who run them - the people who run them need to face prison and personal consequences. (edited for spelling and missing word)

 

This happened twice, in two different communities now.

The attached here screenshot shows 3 comments deleted for posting an opposing viewpoints, none of which have any insults. I was told my comment (and apparent ban) was due to violation of rule 1 - don't be a jerk. My comment had no insults or name-calling, only stating what I believe, and this result in a removal and ban without any further conversation. EDIT: to point out this first instance occurred within the Ask Lemmy community, and another person noticed this and posted about it - if it doesn't get removed it's here: https://lemmy.world/comment/7831856

The second time it happened (I will post links and screenshot in comment), I did not realize until today. Someone replied to my comment, and I tried to reply back, but could not - then went to check my original comment, which was removed, and I had been apparently banned - both the removal and ban were without any notice given to me either.

While clearly people disagree with my opinions above, I do not believe there was cause for removal and banning in either case. Both these actions are more indicative of attempts to outright remove certain viewpoints than to promote respectful discussion.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That leads us to John Gabrield’s Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory

I don't have comments on the rest of your post, but I absolutely hate how that cartoon has been used by people to justify that they are otherwise "good" people who are simply assholes on the internet.

The rebuttal is this: This person, in real life, chose to go on the internet and be a "total fuckwad". It's not that adding anonymity changed something about them, they were the fuckwads to begin with, but with a much lower chance of having to be held accountable, they are free to express it.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (6 children)

In the US if you give a politician money in exchange for voting against a bill, it's illegal (it's called "quid-pro-quo" in lawyer terms)

But if you just donate money to the politician, his family, or his campaign, without requesting anything - and then he "coincidentally" happens to vote against the bill which you didn't want, it is perfectly legal.

Basically, many politicians are regularly doing something clearly unethical and corrupt in a technically "legal" way.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago

I only discovered it recently, and have been reading it when I'm bored and remember it. Also just discovered the Bill Watterson "cameo" - it is pretty amazing.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago

This guy specifically? He's a racist asshole, who has been surrounded by other racist assholes and gotten support from them, so he has never learned that his behavior is unacceptable in a society that values freedom.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

I went to highschool for 1 year in the UK, where a uniform was mandatory for every student.

I can assure you, it does not promote discipline in any way. Kids fight, do stupid things, and skip classes regardless of how they're dressed.

 
[–] [email protected] 34 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Do you always treat your guests like potatoes?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

Welp, I guess I'll be saying "rule" for the rest of my life now rule.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I do, not always in detail if they're too long - but this one isn't, and the sidebar here actually doesn't say anything about incorporating the word "Rule" in your post title.

The stickied Rules post DOES though, and I just saw that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

Oh - this isn't a bad community, that isn't what I meant by my last sentence - this is just a place for memes and jokes more than serious discussion, hence my expectation of a serious discussion was subverted. But programmer humor is still a great place.

 
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