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Your reading comprehension is non-existent.

while I appreciate the the iel jokes, this is the wrong subject. Nothing to laugh about piece of rotting shit Nazis.

so basically just the hackers to come up with this workaround :D

aren't perfect either

You misspelled "are fucking morons" :)

I honestly ran a bit out of energy to respond at length - but also, since we're mostly agreeing, I guess our energy is better invested in trying to talk some common sense into those who are not (although that feels like a Sisyphus task these days)...

The problem is how to realistically go from were we are now to that utopia.

Unfortunately, I have no solution. And while I don't, the only thing I can do is vote for those that most align with solutions I consider feasible and try and convince others to do the same.

Sadly, propaganda is working frighteningly efficient.

When individual copyright violations are considered "theft" by the law (and the RIAA and the MPAA), violating copyrights of billions of private people to generate profit, is absolutely stealing. While the former arguably is arguably often a measure of self defense against extortion by copyright holding for-profit enterprises.

As I said in my other comment(s): We need to build up infrastructure and help to stabilize political systems and combat climate change in order to avoid ever increasing refugee streams that will overstrain any system. And our mortal enemy and traitors to humanity in this are the right-wing conservatives slash populists and racist dipshits, because they create and worsen every single reason for migrants to flee their home countries. People who further social inequality need to be put in jail and put on mandatory empathy training until they stop being sociopaths.

I strongly disagree with but this one point from you

(so less capable of doing the high value jobs that produce more wealth in the West),

There are no "high value jobs" in the West that are responsible for producing more wealth. As society, we are thieves and parasites stealing from poorer countries simply because we industrialized first and gained a technological, educational and military advantage.

Western society by and large is a parasitic life-form. And I am disgusted that the choice in this world is "benefit from exploitation or be exploited".

I am ashamed of and disgusted by my fellow Europeans who believe that we somehow "did better" at anything, and that thereby our economical well-being is somehow well-deserved. It is not, it is founded on exploitation of the third world and it continues to thrive on cheap labor & resources and lack of regulations from around the globe.

the extremes of “we should help everybody that needs help in the World by inviting them to move over whenever they feel like”

How about "everyone should be able to move freely in the world and live in the place they desire" but in order to sustainably achieve that goal, we need to make most of the world a place worth living in?

I am absolutely disgusted that I can move freely about but my Turkish friends have to ask for a Visa to come visit me.

I think the “thinking” Left needs to separate immigration (inviting people over), from immigrants (people who came because we invited them over in the past, so our guests) and refugees (people who we are helping or should help due to their dire need and we being able to help them) and treat those things differently since there is really only a moral and ethical duty for the last 2, not for the first one.

While I believe that this is a very good point, I also believe we have a duty to do our best to ensure that people all over the world have a chance to live a life worth living. Especially in those countries whose natural resources we use to attain our lifestyle. And IMO the best counter-measures vs. mass migration are

1. create infrastructure in the countries of origin and help towards stable political systems (i.e. the opposite of what the west has been doing in the middle east for decades)
2. combat climate change

Both of these measures face the strongest opposition from the most racist people (climate deniers are strong among right-wing people which I correlate with less brain cells in active use), so in effect the political rightwing is very much causing the problems that they want to be racist about.

While I support a differentiated perspective like you demonstrate, I believe that maybe it can be summarized a little briefer:

• yes, there absolutely are problems related to immigration, that have nothing to do with intentional manipulation by the powerful
• no, those problems do not justify any racism

The typical racist thought process goes: Oh - an immigrant did crime X. How dare "they" while guests. Immigrants (from X / of ethnicity X) are more likely to be criminals. Let's get rid of them.

Addressing those issues requires targeted solutions for complex problems. And some of those are very similar to the solutions required for children from families with a low social status: Sometimes, we have to sadly accept that adults beyond a certain stage of brain development are "beyond help" (sadly, that also means most racists have crossed a line that they can mentally not recover from), and focus on the children being given all chances to learn normal and unprejudiced social interactions. This being: give even the worst parents an incentive (typically that means money) to send their kids to public kindergardens / daycare from an early age. And provide enough spots for children / enough caretakers, and pay those caretakers a decent salary and ensure that they have a very good education.

Fuck ChatGPT-bots.