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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

@Pacifist @TheAnonymouseJoker #Lemmy in general, and lemmy.ml in particular, is known for white-knighting for dictators tho, so this isn't all too unexpected tbh

Although I guess in most cases they wait for the dictator to die first so that people forget how bad he was

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@Hexorg I agree, to a degree. Generally I support federation without cooperation, if that makes sense. The sole purpose of federating with #Meta should be to get people to leave #Meta.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

@Hexorg Hmm IDK. I disagree on moderation, I don't think any #Fediverse admin would trust #Meta enough to use their software for moderation.

The only case I could see for something similar happening is if #Meta forked existing software, added features people wanted, and then closed the source; but admins won't take kindly to that either.

Now, maybe if people start moving away from #Meta's #Project92 / #Barcelona / #Threads, then those reports will start to pile up, but that's a net negative for #FaceBook in terms of userbase, not a net positive.

If I was #Meta, I wouldn't be making server software, I'd be making a custom client with embedded ads to monetize the content from other folks' content. Which could actually lead to an "embrace, extend, extinguish" situation, much more likely than what #Meta is doing right now.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (6 children)

@Hexorg

> Lemmy is small so it gets more feature requests than it can code up.

Why? From who? Are a lot of #Meta users who are on #Project92 / #Barcelona / #Threads *really* going to be submitting feature requests for a software that they don't use?

> Meta comes in and looks at the most requested feature that’s been put on lemmy's backlog. Let’s say it’s some mod tool. Maybe even AI mod tool that sorts comments based on sentiment analysis.

What are the chances that this is something so significant that people would be willing to switch software over it?

> use lemmy and face flood of trolls in their communities

Where are these users coming from? This is already a problem on the #Fediverse, and we already know how to deal with it.

This scenario you're pitching seems wildly implausible.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (9 children)

@jherazob I care more about the effects than intent in this case.

#Meta's #Threads / #Barcelona / #Project92 doesn't have the ability to do anything actually negative to the #Fediverse except potentially overload small instances with a flood of traffic.

I don't get the fearmongering; lots of talk about "breaking the #Fediverse" coming from people who aren't really doing a good job of articulating how exactly a new #Fediverse software--because that's all this is at the end of the day--will break an entire network of software that already works with each other.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (11 children)

@jherazob The #Meta situation isn't comparable to the #XMPP situation though

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (14 children)

@jherazob

what the heck makes you think that all the #Fediverse users are just gonna leave for #Meta because federation with it is "annoying"? lol

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (20 children)

@MyMulligan @jherazob I disagree.

I think the key thing is to just make sure that you don't use non #FOSS clients. #GoogleTalk started as a client for #XMPP, people migrated to it, and then #Google dropped support for #XMPP. If so many people didn't use #GoogleTalk, the #XMPP network would have remained unimpeded.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (5 children)

@fu @GizmoLion @1337tux @DerWilliWonka @TheAngryBad I'm not on board with the selling part tbh, but I like the bot idea, it worked for #Reddit like the guy said

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (8 children)
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