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[–] [email protected] 516 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (20 children)

Judkins said that after the finger test, a lead cybertruck engineer at Tesla said he did the video wrong.

The engineer told him the frunk increases in pressure every single time it closes and detects resistance, Judkins said. It's going to assume you want to close the frunk and maybe something like a bag is getting in the way, which would make it close harder.

Are you kidding me? You did the test wrong on a safety critical feature? No you dumbass engineer, you designed it wrong. Why in the holy fuck would you make a safety critical algorithm keep applying more pressure on subsequent attempts??? That's literally the opposite of what you do for safety.

[–] [email protected] 139 points 4 months ago (2 children)

The engineer told him the frunk increases in pressure every single time it closes and detects resistance, Judkins said. It’s going to assume you want to close the frunk and maybe something like a bag is getting in the way, which would make it close harder.

What the fuck kind of idiots are leading things over there? "Something's in the way. Better crush it!" What a bunch of morons putting everyone in danger.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 4 months ago (1 children)

"If it encounters resistance, the brushless motor increases in pressure until it closes fully." Guess the company:

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  3. Makita
  4. Tesla
[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Sounds like a job for the torque test channel.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Musk seems to be increasingly infecting the whole company with his idiocy.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago

The sane people were fired or left. I'm sure most of who's left are either stuck or like to lick elons taint.

[–] [email protected] 99 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Why the hell would it close harder if there is something in the way? That's not the correct behavior for a lid, that's the correct behavior for powered shears.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago

Tesla Cyber Truk* *includes free shears with every purchase

[–] rottingleaf 10 points 4 months ago

Maybe because they want the degradation of some mechanism to be less noticeable over time. And because they're dumb.

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[–] [email protected] 89 points 4 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 53 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Cybertruck owners can have a finger guillotine. as a treat

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Needs a lockout/tagout before putting your hands in the powered shears to get out your bags.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

As if it wouldn't just close and break off the lockout anyway.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

How many miles? Would you say, ten million?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago

My finger points.

  • Not that cybertruck owner
[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Gentlemen, you will now refer to me as Betty.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 4 months ago

I wonder if the guy that designed autopilot had the same idea. "So when the car detects resistance up ahead in the form of a crowd or wall, it will accelerate to make sure it goes through!"

[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 months ago

We deliberately made it fail critical. It's your fault for expecting fail safe!

[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 months ago (4 children)

I know I'm old school and all that, but why do people want to pay for automatically closing doors of any kind? Automatic opening of cargo spaces I get, if you have your bags full of hands or whatever, but once you put the stuff in there... Seem like such an incredibly unnecessary and costly feature, that also have a high chance of failing in the future. I don't get it.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Because taking stuff out is like putting stuff in, only in the reverse order.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Except when the stuff is in, you have free hands to close doors and hatches

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I think we're on two different wavelengths.

Put stuff in: Stand next to closed car with no free hands, could use automatically opening doors.

Take stuff out: Open car. Pick up stuff out of the car. Stand next to open car with no free hands, could use automatically closing doors.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

In the case where you took everything out though, there's no bags for it to get stuck on. There's no need for it to slam itself

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Good question. My wife's RAV4 has a rear door that will only close if you press a button. You can't close it manually. Furthermore, it's on the door while it's open and my five foot tall wife can barely reach it. It's ridiculous.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Wouldn’t your wife have a hard time closing it manually too then?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (2 children)

You know, that's true and it didn't even occur to me. I guess she just wouldn't have bought it? (I would have been fine with that, I hate SUVs, even hybrids.)

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

We've got a 2019 Rav and I can't remember how, but you can adjust the height that the door opens to by some series of button pushes. We had to lower it so that it doesn't hit the frame of the garage door when opening it inside the garage. Maybe just adjust it so that it doesn't open all the way and it'll be easier for her to reach the button?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I'll let her know about that. Thanks.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

I actually sell these. You can manually lower the door to the height that works comfortably, then hold the automatic door button down for about 3 seconds. That should program the door to a new maximum height.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

How do I set the height on my vehicle's adjustable power liftgate?

When the liftgate reaches the desired height, push the rear liftgate close-button once (button is located on the doorjamb of the rear liftgate, and only accessible when the liftgate is open). Press and hold the button until it beeps 4 times. Click here to view a video.

😎

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

On older Toyotas the rear door has a strap inside that hangs down for people to grab onto and pull the door down to close.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

My Subaru has a similar setup, and there’s a feature for changing the max height of the tailgate. You might wanna see if the same thing exists for you.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Because like you said, it's a nice to have feature. I like my wife's auto closing hatch for when I have a handful of boxes for that final grocery run and just walk away and it closes. It's literally just really nice convenience feature and if it fails, you go back to closing it manually.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago

It strikes me as exactly the kind of engineering call that Elon has tended to make, time after time. With zero training in an area, he gets a solution in his head crufted up from some set of pre-existing notions or points of view and then pushes to have them implemented. He will also go on to fire anyone who disagrees with him. I spoke with an engineer who worked on the gull wing doors, which the team had objected to, and not only did he force them through, he burst in on one of the finalization meetings where they had finally reached a design consensus and insisted they change the hinge. Given similar reports on his behavior regarding other products (including especially twitter), I have no reason to disbelieve this person.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Lols. Tesla logic.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Must... break... finger... push mooooaaaa. ~Tesla

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

5 year old me after it bounces back from my finger I accidentally put there- agaaaain! agaaain!

And the stupidest of all car owners is not smarter than a 5y old kid.

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