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I've got multiple white queer friends who are staunchly "vote blue no matter who" and dissolve into a trembling breakdown whenever they're asked about it, talking about how if republicans win the world is going to end etc. Like, full on angry-crying wojak, talking about third-party voting being a waste, Project 2025, etc. Coincidentally, these friends hardly ever engage with activism.

How do you choose to engage with these kinds of people? What's the general opinion on the vote in leftist circles, considering so many are refusing to vote for Biden (just checking the water temp since I've been largely offline save for activism and work lately)?

I've been away from Hexbear for a minute, apologies if this has been discussed!

walter

Edit: Really appreciating all the replies! Really glad I can reliably come here for good discussions. Thanks everyone quokka-smile Slash gen., in case it's needed.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

How do you choose to engage with these kinds of people?

Personally I don't. I'll go out of my way to avoid these people. If I'm forced to I just bully them.

What's the general opinion on the vote in leftist circles?

Consensus seems to be "If your line is not genocide, please go die." Maybe a little less crass but that seems to be it.

I thought voting was dumb and a waste of time before, but I'm certainly not endorsing someone who enables a genocide.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Makes sense! I wish there was a way for me to get through to them in a way that they wouldn't just completely ignore, since unfortunately some of these are friends I'd like to keep (though maybe I shouldn't.) They're extremely sore about their failure to convince me to vote for the guy who said Muslims are motivated by "ancient hatred."

[–] [email protected] 24 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Muslims are motivated by "ancient hatred."

I can't imagine trying to explain to a lib how racist that statement is. As soon as I heard "Biden's not a racist he's a democrat" or some dumb shit like that I'd blow a fucking gasket.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm going to give you additional context to make the implications even more insane: I come from a Muslim family and these friends are familiar with that fact. agony-mescaline

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 months ago

Biden is not racist, he is a democrat same-picture