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What could have been... (lemmy.world)
submitted 3 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (5 children)

It was Obama. Bernie was going to win. Obama called up Buttigieg and Klobuchar and told them to drop out in order to consolidate the non-Bernie vote around Biden. They did as they were asked.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Moderate democrats were splitting the vote, and when all of them dropped out, the vote consolidated to a moderate candidate.

Are you basically arguing that, despite (unfortunately) not appealing to the average democratic voter, it's somehow wrong that he didn't win in favor of a politician who does?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Well, by the same token, Warren did not drop out. And, many of her supporters may have supported Bernie. So, kind of contingent on who is in the race at any given point. Until we have ranked choice primaries, it will be easy to end up with a candidate that does not have popular support winning.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Sure, but Biden got more than 50% of the vote, meaning even if all of her voters had flipped to sanders, Biden still wins.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

phoneymouse 13 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

It was Obama. Bernie was going to win. Obama called up Buttigieg and Klobuchar and told them to drop out in order to consolidate the non-Bernie vote around Biden. They did as they were asked.

You mean Hilary or in 2020 when Bernie firmly supported Biden after dropping out, and still does?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It was 2020, just because Bernie did swing to Biden after super Tuesday made the writing on the wall clear and Bernie was vehemently against Trump winning again.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

We’re to assume you were on that call?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The media reported on this.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

They did, and you're right. A cursory search corroborates the notion. Whether we have transcripts of a call is just bloviating questions from a snarky shithead troll.

www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1147471

[–] [email protected] -4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

So…. The “media” was on the call? There should be a transcript somewhere. Care to share it?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If you’re interested in the details, go ahead and look it up.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Should be easy for you to provide. And this is a good place for it. Please, show your receipts.

EDIT: Looks like there are no receipts. Too bad.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

It was definitely that, and not that Buttigieg's campaign stalled out after he couldn't snowball his Iowa win