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[–] [email protected] 152 points 3 months ago (37 children)

"We" didn't do shit to Bernie...

The wealthy and politically connected fucked over Bernie and every other American like they consistently do. Because Bernie would have actually helped Americans and they'd have another FDR to deal with.

People need to stop thinking it's D vs R. Both parties look out more for their donors than America, and they have a lot of the same donors. The only explanation for the DNCs actions back to 2016, is they'd rather have trump than a progressive.

trump let's moderates lower standards, a progressive president means standards would be raised, and no more Republican or "moderate" Dem president.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Bernie would have actually helped Americans and they'd have another FDR to deal with.

The President isn't a dictator. Bernie wouldn't have been able to do anything because of the Republican controlled Congress.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

He would have been the leader of the Democratic party... And as such he could have made some serious changes to that party and who is allowed to be in it... Possibly even giving us an actual people's party

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

The only explanation for the DNCs actions back to 2016, is they'd rather have trump than a progressive.

The DNC has spent over 44 million dollars helping pro-trump Republicans win their primaries over moderate Republicans, so that they can point at the Republican party and say "look, there are no moderate Republicans left". The DNC is just as guilty as the trump Republicans for radicalizing the Republican party.

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[–] [email protected] 96 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I've always felt that he would have delivered against trump in 2016. A paragon of living up to expectations of what our leadership should do at every stage of his life.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/2016/02/18/bernie-sanders-and-the-willis-wagon-protests-of-1963/

[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Pretty sure he'd have gotten the Kennedy treatment if his policies didn't serve the owner class. But probably in a plausibly deniable way, like a heart attack or such.

Also, let's face it: America didn't do anything to Bernie, they did it to themselves...

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 months ago

Debbie Wasserman Schultz did that to America. The primary turnout was a direct result of Bernie’s lack of coverage throughout his campaign.

[–] [email protected] 77 points 3 months ago (1 children)

There's no "we" about it. The Democratic party no longer represents the people or unions. It represents corporate interests. Repubs do, too, but it's incorrect to think the Dems still care about the average working person.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (19 children)

Lol.

Man's name was on the ticket.

People didn't fucking vote for him.

Nobody stopped them. Nobody.

People didn't want Bernie Sanders. I did. I voted for him twice. But I'm so fucking sick of this goofy-assed narrative that absolves the public of their civic fucking responsibility.

Nobody stole our vote. Nobody. His name was on the ticket. People didn't vote for him.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

100% this. I supported him, donated lots to his campaign, and the people just didn’t turn out to vote. The left are notorious for this. Every four years, they become online-only activists and yell at everyone to either not vote- or to throw away a vote via third-party.

And then, they vanish without a trace only to resurface later on as victims of their own decisions. And what’s funny about the whole thing is that they complain so much about “status quo,” but fail to realize they’re as status quo as it gets.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago

I'm from Kentucky. His name was never on any ballot I had access to. Would have voted for him if I ever actually had the opportunity to do so.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 3 months ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 40 points 3 months ago (9 children)

Bernie would of won against trump

[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 months ago

Bernie have of won against trump

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Funny how this has happened to two Vermont politicians since the year 2000.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago

I thought that was a dumb thing for the media to latch on to at the time, but now I know why they forced the "controversy" anyways.

Just looking at all his policy stances in 2004 makes me so sad... Instead we got another term of Bush.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (11 children)

It was Obama. Bernie was going to win. Obama called up Buttigieg and Klobuchar and told them to drop out in order to consolidate the non-Bernie vote around Biden. They did as they were asked.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Moderate democrats were splitting the vote, and when all of them dropped out, the vote consolidated to a moderate candidate.

Are you basically arguing that, despite (unfortunately) not appealing to the average democratic voter, it's somehow wrong that he didn't win in favor of a politician who does?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Well, by the same token, Warren did not drop out. And, many of her supporters may have supported Bernie. So, kind of contingent on who is in the race at any given point. Until we have ranked choice primaries, it will be easy to end up with a candidate that does not have popular support winning.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago

Yeah but it’s her turn.

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