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The transphobia stops now (lemmy.blahaj.zone)
submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

This community is housed on an instance run by two trans women, focused on the needs of the queer and gender diverse community.

We allowed 196 here because we were promised the community is queer and trans inclusive.

If you're here it's because you're aggressively supportive of trans folk. Not middle of the ground, not "just asking questions".

If your response to that is, "yes, but..." then this isn't the instance for you, and by extension, this isn't the community for you.

tl;dr - Unambiguous support and inclusion, or fuck off somewhere else.

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Edit - I changed the phrase "aggressive support to "unambiguous support", as there was some confusion over the intent behind my previous phrasing.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Does it matter? As long as you're not harassing or hateful towards people and you grant them their freedom to exist as they want, there is nothing wrong with having a preference.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cis people have every other fucking space in the world. This one is meant to be safe for gender minorities. Cis people can go to any of the other instances on lemmy and talk all about their preferences with regards to trans people.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

A member of the community specifically asked for his opinion.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nobody is asking for your opinion but you keep butting in with concern trolling even after people explain the issue to you. Fuck off dude

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

You don't understand what concern trolling. I'm not concerned about anything. I disagree that the initial comment was transphobic. Quit making shit up to be mad about.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That doesn't change literally anything. No one on this instance should be encouraging that, and it should be removed when and where it comes up. Again, this isn't just any instance its one meant to be safe for us specifically. I don't care who brought it up, cis people discussing their sexual preferences towards trans people can do so on any of the other instances that are not safe spaces for us.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Then stop inviting cis opinions into your community. People asked do he answered. It's that simple.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I never did invite cis people to talk about their sexual preferences here, trans people are not a hive mind 🙃 its also not my community, the two women who do own and run it have said outright this is a safe space for us.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Both the post and specific comment in question were the result of members of the community inviting the opinion of straight people.

Talk to the admins and mods🤷‍♀️

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Did you... read the post that we're presently commenting on?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes. What's your point? The author of this post agrees that the comment in question wasn't transphobic.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Read it again. I never said the straight person was being transphobic. I said this is not the community for that. The admins agree.

I get sexualized and fetishized by cisgender men and women literally everywhere I go. Every space, every community, every platform. It's never ending and I cannot fucking tell you how many times in my life I've had to deal with reading random unprompted opinions about how fuckable or unfuckable I am. This is not the space. This is not the community for it. Are you trans? Are you a gender minority? Do you have any frame of reference for what this is like for us?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's an open forum, and clearly some members of the community disagree since they are inviting opinions. Your options is to convince the admins to only federate with lgbt instances, or to make your own. Or maybe the mods can do that country club only type posts like in some reddit communities.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The community is not simply an open forum, it is made by and for gender minorities. This isn't something the admins are taking votes on. The opinion of the admins is that this is a safe space for trans people.

And I'm not interested in compromises. Again, you have no frame of reference for what this is like. In all due respect, you're talking to trans people about things you do not understand as though you do in any way understand them. You also have like 6 different comment threads going on all with trans people in this community who also expect this community to be correctly moderated to fit the standards of a safe space for trans people. So you've accused me a couple times of thinking the OP of the other thread was being transphobic. I havent said that. I said that this is a safe space for trans people and if people want to talk about how fuckable or unfuckable trans people are they can do it elsewhere. I don't care who started it, this isn't the place for it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

It is an open forum. When members of the community invite the opinions of straight people, they are able to see that and respond. It's up to the admins and moderators to lock that down.