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You say that like the stakes truly aren't as high as people say they are.
I say that like it's happened in every fucking election I've been aware of since I was born.
And if the stakes are even higher then we're actively circling the drain as a nation.
Hmm weird because I don't remember 50% of the country saying Mitt Romney is a fascist and even if some did, they didn't have a pile of valid evidence for their argument like they have for trump today
And that wasn't even that long ago. Huge difference, if you're thinking of making some argument that it's slowly gotten more intense.
But yes of course every election is actually the exact fucking same. If you turn your brain all the way off anyhow.
I'm not saying they're the exact fucking same. I'm saying they're getting fucking worse.
Also wasn't the Romney election where they had "Vote or Die' shirts?
You say that like people haven't been saying that exact same thing every election for all of US history. It's a tactic to silence unrepresented groups and bully them into conformity. Some people think differently from you and do legitimately view both the Democrats and Republicans as anti-democratic organizations.
And since at least the ones on the left were personally deprived of a fair election by the Democrats in 2016 and arguably 2020, pretending the Democrats are not also a threat to democracy immediately makes any argument you make fall on deaf ears. Instead, the Dem base parrots the party lines about progressives being the ones who gave us Trump in 2016. Despite literal evidence that the Dems propped him up during the primary.
This is exactly the lie this post was created to criticize
What lie? Please tell me.
Donald, an insurrectionist: "I should be allowed to murder political opponents."
SCOTUS: "Oh, maybe he's right, let's consider."
You: "Everything is fine, just another regular election."
Everything is decidedly not fine. Where was that in my comment? I merely pointed out that your rhetoric is the same as we hear every election.
A president who claims he can murder whomever, whenever is novel, horrifying, and would be the end of voting. Who is going to stop him if SCOTUS rules that way and how? Especially with half the legislative branch complicit. And in fact this same person has already committed an insurrection. You want to play it off, "oh, you guys are panicking every four years."
Once again, you're saying I'm saying things that I'm not.
No, those are the things you are saying right now.
You're free to go in depth and clarify what your intent is saying, "we hear this every election," when people are discussing an openly authoritarian candidate who publicly wants to murder political opponents and has already done an insurrection.
My intent was to push back on your unfounded retort to someone saying they wish there would be one election where the Democrats didn't try to guilt people into voting for them based on fearmongering. You responded to them with... fearmongering. I responded to you to point out that your fearmongering is the same tactic used in every election ever. I didn't make any claims about the validity of Trump's threat to the US.
You then kept putting different words and claims into my mouth to argue against. So I kept saying "no, I'm just saying that this fearmongering is the same as has been used in every election."