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I think we're far from it for now. China still depends on ASML (West) and is nowhere near learning to do EUV for chipmaking.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The larger point is true, the world is basically becoming multipolar. But you still live in a different world from reality:

or in 2016 when it became suddenly clear that much of America and parts of Europe were no longer buying the liberal establishment's bullshit

they only cared about non-whites/immigration, idk why you bring this up

or was it in 2020 with Covid which exposed western governments as morally bankrupt and woefully incompetent compared to China's?

exact opposite, the cattle perceive this as western governments being morally bankrupt by BECOMING LIKE (their idea of) China. The fact that there was a mandate to wear a paper-thin mask is CCP oppression to them. They also think that 20 gorrillion Chinese people died and that it's a Chinese bioweapon (in reality it's the opposite)

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Everything you say is correct. I'm just looking at this from a more global perspective.

I don't think it's all that relevant how the people in the imperial core viewed those events, but all across the global south 2016 and 2020 were undoubtedly perceived as major indicators of the decline/dysfunction of western "liberal democracies".

I do think much of their illusion, or their myth or whatever you want to call it, was shattered then. They were mask-off moments. But as i said, i don't necessarily view those as true inflection points, rather just as further data points indicating a world in transition.