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Why would anyone live there? Let alone believe it's the best country in the world
No one else will have us. Immigration laws are very difficult to navigate for almost every country. We've looked.
As others have said, I just want to +1 that too, immigration laws suck globally.
America may be the capitol of greed, but just about every other country worth moving to has monetary and educational requirements that most of us don't meet. We're locked into this shit hole.
What I don't understand is why my neighbors here in the US stress over medical debt when you can simply not pay it. It won't even impact your credit score anymore. Just ignore the debt and move on with your life. I've been doing this for decades.
Most people don't know this is an option. Most people who do know and exercise this as an option will be targeted for harassment by bill collectors for the rest of their life.
You can avoid the debt collectors simply by shredding their letters and ignoring their calls. They can't harass you if you don't pick up the phone for any number you don't recognize. They give up pretty quickly (usually within a couple of months) once they realize that you can't be reached.
It's honestly so simple to avoid paying debt, that I'm honestly surprised that people don't think to just ignore it. You're not going to go to jail for it, so why even worry? Even if it's a non-medical debt, your credit score will bounce back in only 7 years.
The more worrying part is when they start harassing family members.
You tell your family members to do the same, both when asked about you and for themselves.
That doesn't sound right. The US is constructed to maximize profits for its oligarchy, there's no 7th yacht in allowing the serfs not to pay off their medical debts?
You’d be surprised how much of this system relies on people being actual suckers.
Accounts receivable can be expensive, at a certain point it becomes more profitable to write off the debt for tax credits.
Migrating to a better place is actually not that easy, unless you have a great education.
My wife is afraid of leaving, it's expensive, and immigration laws can make it challenging to move somewhere desirable.
Some friends of mine recently moved to Europe from the US. They are happy with the decision, but it was a huge strain on their family to make the move.
They had to secure jobs, a place to live, and figure out what to do with their pets. On top of that they have to learn a new language, get their kids enrolled in school, and continue to live their lives. It's possible but daunting, and most people can't do it because of family.
Propaganda and indoctrination on levels only comparable to the soviet union.
I only speak English & I don't like cold weather, rain, or spiders.
Can't afford New Zealand?
New Zealand doesn't just take anyone. You usually have to have a job offer or a sizeable account at a New Zealand bank to apply for citizenship. They also take applications for citizenship for certain types of skilled workers (types vary based on need) but that's essentially a lottery if you can even qualify for it.
The international perception of America is far, far stranger than how the USA really is. Like everything. If we were to go by perceptions of other countries alone by media and memes and news reporting, I can point to a LOT of places that would beg the question, "why live there?" but for the majority of people here, it's a peaceful, expansive and free place to live. You just have to fit into the select population that gets those benefits, which can look like different things in different parts of the USA.
This is why the US is still seen as the "shining beacon on the hill" and why US currency is accepted anywhere in the world. The US has massive problems and we have that little issue with being you know... the actual evil empire and all that. But it's still vastly ahead of many places in the world so asking why anyone would live here is as ignorant as if I were to ask why anyone would live in the UK because I read stories about some of the terrible practices and laws there.
It's very hip and cool to say "USA BAD" online, but most people don't really feel that way. That's a deeply internet attitude and a lot of the time you see people living here complaining about it the same way they complain about their job. They hate it, but wouldn't trade it for the alternative.
I used to live there, so I'm speaking from experience.
I've very seriously considered moving in the past few years, but my family and closest friends are here and I don't want to be that far from them.
Because they have little to no choice.
Because the available alternatives are worse then the US.