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[–] [email protected] 77 points 5 months ago (5 children)

I think people should need a licence to drive anything that has a tall nose. The chance of fatality is really high for those cars and people need to be taught that.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Iiiiiidiot tax! $99,99 for 2 hour course where people tell you "You see that hood? Yeah, you hit someone with it, that person is GONE".

[–] [email protected] 32 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (5 children)

I just want to put a small barrier between people and buying a car that's may more dangerous than any reasonably sized alternative. If people want storage space they should buy a station wagon. If they want to transport for work they should buy a Caddy type. If they want to go outdoors offroading then they should get a licence on how to drive offroad and how to prevent front-over accidents etc.

SUVs and bigger cars are becoming the default choice and I think that's a bad thing.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Honestly, they know that. But fashion is fashion, and people's desire is rarely logical. So that barrier...I don't think it will work any better than actual idiot tax. The only offputting thing would be price.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There's already an idiot tax, a crossover costs 50% more than regular. Price is not an issue for people that buy these but a license, course and having the license easier to revoke for speeding in pedestrian zone might work.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

...problem is that manufacturers are discontinuing cars to focus upon SUVs + trucks...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

It's starting to impact the used car market where I live. Not as many options as before when half are cross/suv.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

...registration fees should be proportional to GVWR and speed limits (and fines) should be based upon kinetic energy...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

If people want storage space they should buy a station wagon. If they want to transport for work they should buy a Caddy type. If they want to go outdoors offroading then they should get a licence on how to drive offroad and how to prevent front-over accidents etc.

Most people buying one of these expended exactly zero seconds of thought on what they need from an automobile.

If someone even managed to get any law in place like what you're suggesting (which they won't because it goes against the interests of business), the right wing idiot backlash would be furious and cacophonous and the net result would be Florida marking a day on the calendar as state wide "Ford-fuck-you-mobile" day.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I would love a station wagon, but not many of those around where I live 🙃

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

https://www.caranddriver.com/rankings/best-station-wagons

Apparently these things are what they are calling station wagons these days.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Lmao what? These are practically SUV's

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Fr, I would call every single one of those a "crossover" before I called them station wagons.

That Volvo v60 is the closest thing to a modern station wagon. If it doesn't have 3 big side windows from front to back, it shouldn't be called a station wagon.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

...that mercedes wagon is legitimate...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Fucking hell the size inflation is too real. Toyota Auris and Hyundai i30 are good ones for anybody looking.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

The Volvo isn't too bad, but yeah it's weird how big they got on the outside, while at the same time seemingly having less storage inside.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The thing is if we actually make an off-road vehicle then something in the form factor of a uni-mog is vastly superior.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

mogs are cool, i don't know much about them because they seem to be primarily european, but i will probably own one someday out of curiosity, i only hear good things about them.

Personally i'm a fan of industry trucks though, tatra, oshkosh, unimog, the usual suspects. Ford can eat shit.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Mandatory weekly attendance for every week you wanna continue to drive around that thing in a city.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

better yet, mandatory lifelike dummy crash experience. Send em into a ballistics gel dummy loaded with blood and organs, see how they feel about it.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago

Yep these big rigs should require a CDL, enough with the light trick exemption

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

If it doesnt have airbrakes, and you remove enough seats, you are legally allowed to drive a school bus with a normal liscence.

We need a LOT of attention to liscensing for different types of vehicles beyond just these trucks

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Many countries do demand a commercial vehicle license for such trucks.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

I agree you already need a license to drive a semi trucks I believe but just as someone who dailys a little itty bitty BMW z3 and works at a Toyota dealership and has driven 60s international harvesters anything bigger than a jeep wrangler takes time getting used to being tall and bulky hell I've seen people driving in the middle of the road because they got acclimated to driving a corrola and just hopped into a f150 as a man who has flipped my ATV making trails off roading no matter what your in you need to be instructed on the ins and outs of off roading I'm so onboard for making a sort of truck driving license