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I disagree, I think it's healthy as communists to be skeptical and do our due diligence and background checks before we start getting too confident in someone.
Assange is not a marxist and he's not even on the left -- there was a small part on his politics that I first wrote in but then edited out because there's not much conclusive info there and it was over 10 years ago, but basically he praised Ron and Rand Paul in 2011 for being the good part of the Republicans, despite them also being anti-abortion. He's also not a US citizen and can't vote in the elections there but eh, when has that stopped anyone from having an opinion lol. Then in Australia the same year, the Wikileaks party put up their election lists in such a way that if you voted for them and they didn't get any seats, your vote would then go the fascist Australia First party and then to a "men's rights" group before it went to the Greens. I'm not sure what the relevance of the Greens was in the article I read, but even the WL party talked about them so I feel like it was very relevant at the time.
There is also a part I didn't write into the article about how when he was a teen in the 70s his mom dated ~~a cult leader for a few years who had some ties to MK Ultra~~ edit: dated a cult member when Assange was very young, which was known to abduct children and provide them with false identities. The author then links that to MK Ultra experiments being similar, but that seems to be about it.
^ I didn't include that part about the cult in the article because the source I have for it is difficult to parse and doesn't make more links than I do, so I'm unable to really make a connection myself.
Assange/Wikileaks is only an ally insofar as some of the information they publish is interesting to anti-imperialists, but they're not doing this out of ideological leanings that I can tell. They will -- and primarily wanted to, in the beginning -- post confidential documents on China, Iran, Russia, all the enemies of the US empire basically. It's only in 2010 that they finally posted something on the US.
I dodge this by keeping with my younger anarchist tendancy of having no idols, no gods, no masters.
If I want to be inspired by someone I will look to someone I know in real life within my community. Media figures, celebs, they are all fake and manufactured. With people like Assange, western leftist 'celebs' (for lack of a better term) I just take what good they have to say and ignore the rest while assuming they have skeletons.
Typically if I know about them in the first place they have passed some media check that they arent a serious threat to power. (Zizek, Chomsky)
With Assange, the decades long campaign to have him put in solitary is enough for me to know the upper class are aware of the real threat he poses, hes still nothing id idolize but someone I will take the good from.
How is that Assange's fault?
It ties him and his mom to an MK Ultra cult, but the links are a bit tenuous at this time unless new information comes out.
It ties his mom. A kid hardly has influence on what parents do.
Yes, and that's why I didn't put it in the article?
But you did? How are we discussing it if it's not in the article?
I only mentioned this part of his life in the comment reply above.