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Also Democrats: Ve shall round up und eradicate ze undesirables from society!!! Ve shall put zem into ze camps and ve shall enslave them to benefit ze superior class!!!
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Do they have the numbers to actually push that through? If so, yes that sounds like a good move. Tell your representative to get on it. If enough people do things will start changing.
THEY DON'T NEED NUMBERS! BIDEN IS THE CHIEF EXECUTIVE! THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH WHICH CHOOSES HOW TO ENFORCE LAWS.
Yes, they could (should) change how they enforce those laws, but that doesn't decriminalize it. He's also bound by the constitution (article 2 section 3) which states 'he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed', which probably leaves him some room for interpretation, but, theoretically at least, he can't just ignore the laws that exist. What's needed is actual decriminalization, which is the purview of the legislative branch, for which they need the numbers in congress.
What happens if he ignores that. Genuinely. What consequence in your opinion does a president face for ignoring that.
At a guess, impeachment. Only, rather than the half baked previous attempt, it'll be carried by representatives from both sides as a blatant breach of the rules. From the republicans because he's a dem and from the dems because they keep trying to play fair.
Ok so you can acknowledge that impeachment has already been tried and failed. If the consequences for doing a thing are already applied, there are no consequences for doing a thing.
The difference is, I don't think it would fail in the scenario you put forward, so there would be a consequence. Now if we assume it's biden, and he's unlikely to see out another term even if elected, maybe the risk/reward ration swings enough to make it a realistic possibility, but in general I suspect a president assassinating multiple supreme court justices would lead to them being impeached successfully in short order.
the states that are predominantly controlled by the DNC definitely do. i know they don't want to though, these places all have a bunch of laws in place that can be more forcefully enforced now.
we aren't going to get anywhere bargaining with capitalists. i'm aware of the methods that they use to suppress alternative parties, but at this point we just have to figure out how to defeat them in a way that opens the door to move the overton window left. things have been moving right for a while, no point in pretending there's any actual potential for progress from a center-right liberal party that regularly collaborates with the far right.
They don't want to, but with enough voter pressure will if that's what it takes to stay in power. Unless there are candidates who are more left wing that have a realistic chance of wining elections at the state level it's probably necessary to work with what's in front of us, which probably means pressuring the dem representatives to move left. That'll take engaging with a significant portion of the electorate which is likely to be challenging, but probably the only way to slide the overton window left. I think the voters have to move first before the politicians follow, and they'll probably have to be cajoled as individuals rather than a party.
no point in pretending there's any actual potential for progress from a center-right liberal party that regularly collaborates with the far right. pretending like they can be fixed is delusional. what makes you think this pressure tactic can work? what makes you think that DNC will not work to turn left candidates into collaborators? i hardly think that political parties are "the answer", but limiting ourselves to only organizing within the liberal establishment is silly.