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Believe me I understand what you’re saying. No one is saying these nations are without problems, but
The biggest and most powerful nation in this block is China and very little is going to change that. That right there will stop most of those ambitions for the most part in my opinion. On top of that nuclear war is the other factor to consider and unlike the west these places for all their faults generally don’t want to die so really the only path forward is economic prosperity, which China incentivizes. So far everyone has said that these places will act just like the west without really thinking of all the ways acting like the west is just going to ostracize them from a clearly better future. Could it happen? Sure, but I doubt it.
for me to agree with that, china must reign in its foreign capitalists. they're capable of doing that and they've done it in select cases, but they must do it completely. They're not in any way as bad as the west, but not nearly as good as the soviet union or a socialist country. They're not trying to combat unequal exchange, they're trying to make 'win win' situations.
im not saying i discard them, but im not championing them as the ones who will free our world. They're extremely important to subverting western international capital, but they do that by helping the national bourgeoisie.
This isn’t about freeing the world. The primary contradiction in the world today is the west vs the global south. China is helping them to not be economically subservient to the west and that’s the most important step towards building socialism in the present moment. Whatever happens after that is anyone’s guess, but all I’m saying is it’s very disheartening to hear that many people here believe the global south will just end up like the west.