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I don't fully agree. Extinction can be natural, what right do humans have to intervene in this? Just because conservation makes us feel nice?
Each situation is extremely intricate of course, so maybe this is the right choice in this instance, such as preventing a larger impact to a local ecosystem, or if the barred owls were introduced directly unnaturally. But direct human intervention should always be greatly scrutinized. We already do enough damage indirectly from exploiting global resources.
There are no natural systems untouched by human actions, and there is no way to separate the consequences of a changing environment like extinction from human activity.
Conservation is a movement to preserve the natural systems that were here before industrialisation, and are here now, not to "let nature run it's course*.
There are no rights in nature, rights are a part of the fabric of society. We want to conserve nature and so we will.
And what happens when this intervention causes new unforeseen consequences? How many disruptions until we leave well enough alone?
We don't live in nature. We literally live in a human society. Rights do apply to us within our own realm lmao.
Edit: You probably stack rocks.
The idea that untouched nature progresses toward some idealized equilibrium isn't true, unfortunately. Conservation takes work. It has always taken work. It took work even when this land was solely occupied by indigenous people. We're already in the game and just withdrawing isn't an option.
Life on Earth existed for hundreds of millions of years before human industrialisation, why are we so necessary to it's continuation? Why isn't withdrawing to a certain extent an option? Sounds like you're arguing for the contradiction of infinite growth like a good capitalist.
Hmm, comrade I think the other commentor is a bit rude, and your 'name-calling' or rather insinuations by using similies is also a bit uncalled for.
By similie I am referring to, the use of "...infinite growth like a good capitalist"
It doesn't really seem fair to me to levy a claim like that or make that inference since nothing the other commentor said really–to me at least–indicates them advocating for infinite growth.
I am not even going to respond other than to say your arguments are so dumb, like for real.
seriously, just shut up.
Thank you, this was helpfully thought-terminating.
like your shit arguments had any thoughts to begin with