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[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

In the 7000 series, excluding the 7040 (Zen4, RDNA3) aka Phoneix and 7045 (Zen4, RDNA2) aka Dragon Range, the rest of them are faux-7000 (see edit below for exceptions) - basically, refresh of older architecture - so do not pick them.

Phoenix is the only one here with Zen 4 and RDNA3, while Dragon Range has Zen 4, but RDNA2 GPU - the 610M, which is quite weak - which means that we shouldn't be picking 7045 CPUs, but the 7040 ones.

Within the 7040 series, 7440U (never sold with this name, but instead rebranded as X1 for gaming handheld, maybe there's a mini-PC or SBC out there?), 7540U and 7545U are all good budget processors, however, they come with the 740M with a measly 4CU.

7640U/H/HS comes with the 760M, which is kinda decent at 8CU. However, 7840U/H/HS and 7940H/HS comes with the 780M at 12CU, which is 4 extra compute units.

Now, in the 8000 series,the 8040 aka Hawk Point is also a refresh - however, they're based on the 7040. So, basically, 7040 ≈ 8040, with slightly better NPU aka AI chip (10 vs 16 TOPs). You follow the same rule as above, but replace the preceding 7 with a 8.

If you want the meanest and the baddest breed, you can have the Strix Point, with the lastest Zen5 processor and the newer RDNA3.5 GPU. Both the 365 and HX370 are simply amazing APUs, with 880M (12CU) and 890M (16CU). They're yet to be launched, I think.

Edit: in the 6000 (Zen 3+, RDNA2) and 7035 (6000 refresh, basically) series, there's a iGPU with 680M. They're slightly better than 760M, maybe because of the CU count. You can get them for cheap. Namely the 6800U/HS/H, 6900HS/HX, 6980HS/HX, and the 7335U/H/HS, 7336U.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Right and all of these are probably inferior to the 780M found in the 8700G? I was looking at 780M/8700G numbers and watching it slug its way through Alan Wake 2 at 1080/FSR/lowest and not even getting 30fps consistently desolate

AMD's new mobile naming scheme is... slightly unpleasant, not as bad as Intel's but lol. At least it tells you which ones are old architectures...

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Right and all of these are probably inferior to the 780M found in the 8700G?

No, some of them have the 780M, so do look out for them. The 680M is kinda good, but I'd ignore that for being old.

I was looking at 780M/8700G numbers and watching it slug its way through Alan Wake 2 at 1080/FSR/lowest and not even getting 30fps consistently desolate

The Strix Point may be what you're looking for. However the game you've mentioned here - Alan Wake 2 - struggles with even the RTX 3000 and 4000 series GPU - just wanted to let you know that this game is terribly optimized.

AMD's new mobile naming scheme is... slightly unpleasant, not as bad as Intel's but lol. At least it tells you which ones are old architectures...

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[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Yeah it's also a dogshit game, this much is true of Callisto Protocol as well, but I use their numbers as a metric for future proofing, kinda. If a GPU can't run this now, how bad is it gonna be in a year?

It's kind of a contradiction, where everyone is yelling about how you need 16GB VRAM and a fast GPU, and you do to run stuff... but almost none of the big games are worth it madeline-sadeline pointless

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Yeah it's also a dogshit game, this much is true of Callisto Protocol as well, but I use their numbers as a metric for future proofing, kinda. If a GPU can't run this now, how bad is it gonna be in a year?

You need to give some love to games like Hollow Knight, Noita and Triangle Strategy. The triple-A game scene will be getting worse soon.

It's kind of a contradiction, where everyone is yelling about how you need 16GB VRAM and a fast GPU, and you do to run stuff... but almost none of the big games are worth it

This is what happens when investors are your real customers. Sure as well hope that TES6 be cancelled. Because it will suck anyway, now that we've seen how their space game was absolute garbage.

Anyways, if you remember the shared memory tech used in Xbox and older PlayStations, which made use of the AMD processors, they used to have shared RAM for CPU and GPU. Those were primitive tech, and limited to atmost 2 or 4GB. I've heard that AMD is bringing that for PCs, desktop and laptop alike, so the performance gains may be really phenomenal. This one is be called the Strix Halo, aka the Medusa Point, and right now, it is being tested for cache and RAM sharing (I think, I may be wrong tho) - it's called the Infinity Fabric or something.

But you'll have to wait till 2025.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Metroidvania is cringe, but I'm literally playing Celeste right now, having just finished Tactics Ogre, and then I'm gonna play Fata Morgana. I agree, but if that's your bag then you don't need to consider any of this. A GTX 1050Ti will suffice for that, the point of stressing about big games running is future proofing. The last AAA game I bought was Doom Eternal, so I'm not that fussed, was only curious about APUs as a console alternative.

Yeah Bethesda's last good game was before the 2008 recession, I would laugh if TES6 got canned. Skyrim was fuuuckin shiiit!

thinking-about-it Infinity Fabric is the name for the interconnect between CCXs in all Ryzen CPUs... I've never been clear on how memory sharing works in consoles 'cause Idek, I tend to view it the same as all iGPUs do it, that you just allocate however much (2GB, 4GB) memory to GPU and the rest to the CPU.

I would be hesitant of getting hyped for any memory sharing stuff AMD talks about--back when they were still doing Modules with shared elements in Bulldozer and Piledriver architectures, their APU line featured a bit of this functionality with the Mantle API - Heterogenous System Architecture, or HSA for short. AMD talked a lot of shit about how cool it was for the processor and graphics parts of the APU to access the same memory, and how cool it was that they would be treated "equally" computationally. They dropped this idea hardcore when Ryzen launched because it was basically a GPU-shaped crutch for their garbage CPUs, and the marketing talk was all cope, lol

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