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When you actually ask them for more detailed deets, you'll usually hear the same story, they grew up in a conservative household, drifted Lib in college and then only ended up here due to a falling down the right weird Internet forum holes. Most people don't really evolve past the college Lib phase and I really don't think a handful of podcasted who are already too left for most, them going that last mile that will actually make them untouchable will effect anything.
I'm static and deterministic because that is the reality in the west, our geopolitical and economic position, combined with just how damn good our propaganda is, means that there's really not much you can do, because there's not mass movement to build. Do what you can, start a soup kitchen, help migrants, do some pro-Palestine stuff cuz that's the one anti-imperialist cause that actually has enough popular support in the US to actually have some effect. But there's really not much else, with a lot of stuff going too hard on if anything will just force people to defensively double down. I straight up don't talk about Ukraine to my Lib friends at all because I'm sure if I did it'd just make them even more "Slava Ukraine". You might as well just keep you head low and hand bagels out to the homeless.