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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 month ago (11 children)

The Democrats have had YEARS to endorse anyone who was born after the Battle of the Bulge. With the election less than 4 months away, it is WAY too late to pick Biden's successor.

They need to come with a campaign message that shows ordinary people why Biden is a better choice than Trump, which should be the easiest g*ddamn thing in the world.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The Democrat "voters" haven't had a choice. It's the Democrat party that has pushed for Biden so hard and not allowed any opportunity for voters to choice someone else before now.

The democratic party wants Biden as president.

I suspect the majority of Democrat voters do not want him to run again.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

“Democrat voters” “Democrat party”

I asked about this curious phrasing in this comment - what’s your take on it? Why do you think there might be a notable overlap between the users who are so fed up with the Democratic Party that they’re against Biden, and the users who even though they are obviously left wing people, use a traditionally conservative turn of phrase?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I happen to be in this thread due to bouncing around, so I'll explain anytime I use Democrat/Democratic/Republican:

I've had various liberals tell me Democrat was a form of dog whistle or sign I'm a right winger. One person started to dig into my mutual aid info trying to figure out if I was a Russian bot because I said "Democrat" instead of Democratic. I've tried to Democratic as a noun, and it felt grammatically incorrect. "I'm running as a Democatic." "The current majority in the house is with the Democratics."

Personally I think "Democrat" works for both candidate, party, and voter. "Biden is the Democrat's Nominee" vs "Biden is the Democratic nominee".

I have no idea if one is better than the other, but I tend to use one over the other when needed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I've tried to Democratic as a noun, and it felt grammatically incorrect. "I'm running as a Democatic." "The current majority in the house is with the Democratics.”

Well that sure is a totally normal human explanation.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Am I missing something here? I've had people say that I had to use that word otherwise I'm somehow on the payroll for the Republicans.

I do acknowledge that "Democrat" has been a form of... for lack of a better word, slur from Republican weirdos.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Serious explanation: "Democrat" as a noun is normal. "I'm running as a Democrat." "The current majority in the house in with the Democrats."

"Democratic" as an adjective is normal. "Democratic Party."

"Democrat" as an adjective is super weird. I think it was originally intended as a slur, but to me it just sounds weird, like bad grammar. "Democrat Party." Almost no one uses it that way except conservatives, because no one who doesn't consume conservative media would even run across it.

I found your explanation very bizarre because something like "I'm running as a Democratic" is something I've never heard in my life. If someone actually did tell you that "Democrat" is a bad thing even as a noun, there was some severe miscommunication on someone's part.

Apologies for being sarcastic about it

Edit: Welp, I looked over the history for the user I was talking to, and now I feel silly for thinking maybe they were actually confused somehow, and trying to help them. They’re just trying to obfuscate the original issue by introducing this nonsensical straw man of “I’m running as a Democratic,” I think, and I’m naive enough that I bought into it enough to give them a straight answer on it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

It doesn't help I'm running short on sleep, autistic, and just not in a good mood today before the assassination attempt.

But yeah, I personally go "Democratic Party" for the party but a member of Congress is a Democrat. I'm registered Democratic Party, I am a Democrat, yadda yadda.

I found your explanation very bizarre because something like “I’m running as a Democratic” is something I’ve never heard in my life. If someone actually did tell you that “Democrat” is a bad thing even as a noun, there was some severe miscommunication on someone’s part.

Maybe, I just recall them claiming I was a fake American for doing it, and then saying my Polish friend was a form of Russian agent because he was born and lives in Poland. I can try to find the post but that was months ago.

Thank you for taking the time to explain it, Mozz.

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