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I am super curious why such a far-right deviation of "communism" like MAGA Communism exists. Like, what are the underlying material conditions that give rise to it? We understand Communism, we understand fascism, but PatSocs? Mystery to me.
If anyone has something to add, please, enlighten me.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO
Ya know, that's on me, haha. Should've realized.
1: 90% of it is an Op.
2: Some people out there don't like capitalism but also are socially reactionary so they buy in the narrative some conservatives in AES states have about homosexuality being "western decadence" or whatever.
3: Kinda related to two, but I think some of these guys are just Russophilies who get into weird brand of modern Russian Nationalism that still revers the USSR and just mimic those guys' politics. Wouldn't be surprised if some of these dorks have pictures of Stalin and Czar Nicholas on their wall.
Outside of being an op, the only explanation I have is that it's based on pure vibes. They believe Western propaganda about Stalin and think it's based. They like Putin because he's not woke. They're anti-Zionist because they're actually antisemitic.
They basically do the "criticizing communism while describing capitalism" bit but in reverse, where they praise communism based on anti-communist propaganda that's supposed to make it sound like fascism.
Reminds me a lot of national socialism? They're just doing the thing they always do and stealing words/ideas and corrupting them to make shit more confusing.
idk, it doesnt even seem that intentional to me. i feel like it's more like anarcho-capitalism, just a bunch of half thought through ideas jammed awkwardly together none of which would ever work, based entirely on vibes. patsocs are basically just what happens when an average chud realizes that capitalism is bad but doesn't want to read theory and retains all of their racist and nationalist brainworms
Rightwingers are regularly intentional without being coherent. Anarcho capitalism is actually a great example of them being intentional, but not necessarily coherent.
They're an op by feds first and foremost. Beyond that they're a bunch of rich first world crackers attempting to cobble together leftist thought from their living rooms full of treats. Just imagine yourself to be the laziest, most pointless American white guy who wants for nothing. Now imagine you've read the tiniest bit of Lenin, or maybe you've just played as the Soviets in a video game. Rather than doing something cool like joining a local mutual aid group or working at a shelter, instead you simply adopt politics in the most white cracker way possible. You make a grift about how upper middle class white suburban Americans are actually the most threatened segment of the proletariat.
To the extent that it isn't an op, they basically just want an American version of
They want socialism with cracker characteristics