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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Didn't the IBA confirm khelif and Lin failed karyotype tests?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm just gonna quote Wikipedia as I'm lazy. Tldr: it's complicated.

Following Khelif's victory over Italy's Angela Carini during the 2024 Olympic Games, rumours surfaced on social media about her gender. These were fuelled by Khelif's disqualification from the 2023 Women's World Boxing Championships organised by the Russian-led International Boxing Association (IBA) after allegedly failing unspecified gender eligibility tests.[4][5] This disqualification happened three days after Khelif defeated a previously unbeaten Russian prospect, thus restoring the Russian boxer's undefeated record.[6] The IBA's Olympic status was later revoked due to governance issues as well as judging and refereeing corruption. The International Olympic Committee (IOC) and its Paris Boxing Unit stated Khelif was eligible to compete in the Olympics, and criticized the IBA's previous disqualification as "sudden and arbitrary" and taken "without any due process".[7] No medical evidence that Khelif has XY chromosomes or elevated levels of testosterone has been published.[8] Khelif was born female and identifies as female.[9]

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm going off of the IBA statement that says:

Following many complaints from several coaches, boxers agreed to gender testing. Blood sample collection was made on 17 May 2022. Sistem Tip Laboratory from Istanbul (License Number: 194-MRK) issued its report on 24 May 2022, after the competition ended. The laboratory detected results that didn’t match the eligibility criteria for IBA women’s events.

At the next IBA Women’s World Boxing Championships 2023 in New Delhi, Khelif and Lin were tested following their consent again before their first fights. Blood sample collection was made on 17 March 2023. Dr Lal PathLabs from New Delhi issued its report on 23 March 2023. The findings were absolutely identical to the first test results.

Definition of Men/Male/Boy = individual with chromosome XY.

Definition of Women/Female/Girl = individual with chromosome XX

The IBA can't legally publish the results, nor can either lab. The only people that can positively confirm or deny this are Khelif and Lin and don't seem like they will. I'm not sure if it's a testosterone imbalance or a chromosomal issue but the way the IBA placed the definition there and didn't have hormonal bounds in the press release makes me think it's a chromosome thing. I don't really buy the "spoopy corrupt RuZZians" line that they disqualified her because she beat the Russian athlete because of the 2022 tests and the 2 independent labs.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You're taking the IBA at their word despite their problems. Also you repeating the

cw: queerphobic

XY = women

line is a bit problematic.

The only people that can positively confirm or deny this are Khelif and Lin and don't seem like they will

Insisting that women need to prove their gender is gonna lead to a lot of issues down the line.

At least get the point of the meme, and hold your opinion until we all know more.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That is a quote from the IBA and that is their criteria. The only opinion I've stated here was that I don't think the IBA disqualified her for beating a Russian athlete because of the 2022 test, and that Lin didn't beat the Russian athlete and was also disqualified. I'm not defending the IBA here, they are one of 5 (Khelif, Lin, Sistem Tip, PathLabs) entities that have relevant information on this topic and the only one that is publishing specific statements here. Everything other than it is quotes from the IBA press release.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

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