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The Internet in Ancient Times

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Welcome to the stone age... or the bronze age... or the iron age... heck, anything with an 'age' is welcome, except our modern age or any ages to come.

This is about what the internet was like thousands of years ago back when it all started. Like when Darius the Great hired mercenaries via Craigslist or when Egypt invented emojis.

CODE OF LAWS

1 - Be civil. No name calling, no fighting, keep your flint hand axes inside your leather pouches at all times.

2 - Keep the AI stuff to a minimum. It gets annoying and old fashioned memes are more fun for everyone.

3 - None of this newfangled modern 21st century nonsense. We don't even know what "21st century" means.

4 - No porn/explicit content. The king is sensitive about these things.

5 - No lemmy.world TOS violations will be tolerated. So there.

6 - There is no ~~rule~~ law 6.

Laws of justice which Hammurabi, the wise king, established. A righteous law, and pious statute did he teach the land. Hammurabi, the protecting king am I. I have not withdrawn myself from the men, whom Bel gave to me, the rule over whom Marduk gave to me, I was not negligent, but I made them a peaceful abiding-place. I expounded all great difficulties, I made the light shine upon them. With the mighty weapons which Zamama and Ishtar entrusted to me, with the keen vision with which Ea endowed me, with the wisdom that Marduk gave me, I have uprooted the enemy above and below (in north and south), subdued the earth, brought prosperity to the land, guaranteed security to the inhabitants in their homes; a disturber was not permitted. The great gods have called me, I am the salvation-bearing shepherd, whose staff is straight, the good shadow that is spread over my city; on my breast I cherish the inhabitants of the land of Sumer and Akkad; in my shelter I have let them repose in peace; in my deep wisdom have I enclosed them. That the strong might not injure the weak, in order to protect the widows and orphans, I have in Babylon the city where Anu and Bel raise high their head, in E-Sagil, the Temple, whose foundations stand firm as heaven and earth, in order to bespeak justice in the land, to settle all disputes, and heal all injuries, set up these my precious words, written upon my memorial stone, before the image of me, as king of righteousness.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, but if people only worked essential jobs, and not in stupid competitive ways that only make the owners of some of those companies rich, you could get by with much less work. Think about how wasteful industrial production is, and how many office building skyscrapers and malls are being built just for investors' sakes that are not needed, and often lay empty.

If people only built what is actually needed for good lives, and not for greed, so much manpower would be freed up. Especially if they did it in sustainable ways that wouldn't require everything being torn down or renewed again really soon.

Also, imagine crypto shitcoin peddlers being forced to do useful work like plumbing. There are so many people just getting paid for downright evil or at least useless shit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

So the malls are for investors or they lay empty? Those two things are quite contradictory...

And who decides what is needed for a good life? What if I want a garden? What if I want a convertible? What if I want to fly to Hawaii? What if I want to race cars?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah generally.

But if folks are unmotivated for the work they are forced to do, then you get shit work.

If people.just chase profit, you get what we have now.

There's no way we are maintaining the standards of modernity on 3h a day where folks are dictated by some outside force into what labor is most needed

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

We chase money because this equates to goods and services. Well there's a huge excess of money being produced and horded.

This excess production is a result of ... work (plus machinery, efficiency improvements etc).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Obviously. That was the edit "what we have now" I referred to.

I'm not idealizing the current system, I'm saying 3h of "whatever needs to be done" isn't going to keep us anywhere near a western standard of living

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

3h per day doesn't need to be portioned as such. Maybe you work 8 hour days for 6 months and take the rest of the year off until you're back for your next project.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Top comment referred to 3h per day.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Fair enough but we can be charitable and consider it an average. Dismissing it by literal interpretation isn't advancing the conversation. Apply the principle of charity and the point stands.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Sure but I can't be able to cover every possible non traditional work type.

My point is I was specifically contrasting the stated 3h ancient standard