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Others will present themselves. Mozilla have been on a downtrend for years. I've heard of a couple of alternatives, but I don't have the experience with any of them. If anyone knows any good Firefox alternatives, please let us know!
If by that you mean “some alt-right-adjacent bro will come up with a new browser that’s essentially reskinned Chromium with a crypto wallet duct-taped to it”, you’re probably right
those already exist
It's okay you can just say Brave
Isnt that brave?
This used to be the thought, but the trouble is, HTML is now such a vastly complex web of requirements, mixed with the unwritten rules set by Chrome, it’s doubtful another browser could push forward easily; especially without a major source of funding.
All good modern browsers are based either on firefox or chromium if I'm not terribly misinformed
I think Safari is WebKit.
Webkit is Chromium (or at least, Chromium is Webkit, since the inheritance goes in the other direction).
The only ^1^ browser engine that is a completely separate and independent codebase from Chrome is Firefox's.
(^1^ aside from extremely niche/unusable stuff like Lynx)
Close. Chromium uses Blink which was originally a fork of WebKit. I have no idea how much they've diverged since then.
The fork was 11 years ago, so a lot. So much that they are considered different engines now.
fair enough, although I'm not sure that falls in the "good" category :P
Forks are often dependent on the original unless the source just gave up.
Vivaldi is my favourite browser, made by decent people.
Also chromium
Vivaldi is pretty alright.
And also based on chrome. That's the thing that people seem to keep ignoring. Your browser options are Firefox or something based on chrome.
pre-chromium Edge was too good to be true.
It was shit. Once Edge changed to Chromium it actually became a viable option and in my opinion made Chrome irrelevant in business environment.
Chromium browsers are good. I personally prefer Firefox, but Chromium is alright.
No one asked for something that wasn't Chromium based here. It's the open source community, that's how it works, most of us are very happy to settle for just having some different maintainers. We weren't ignoring it, it's just not relevant in this particular post.
Well, given the people talking about it I'm not sure I'd agree that no one was asking or talking about finding something not chromium based.
A lot of people don't like having a monoculture, Google driving the entire cadence for new feature development for the web, or having a privacy focused browser whose process is to try to delete the tracking from a not privacy focused browser.
I suppose for me personally the question will always be: how good is it with adblocks? Especially on youtube as that's where I spend a lot of my time. SponsorBlock on Firefox has been invaluable for me, not just blocking ads, but auto-skipping the whole "like, comment subscribe" and in-video ads etc.
It has Adblock Plus built in which is not the best, but still pretty alright. You can still install most regular chrome extensions though and should be able to get mostly the same experience you have now.
Built in ad block is decent, you can add extra filter lists the same way you can with ublock origin
That said, just install ublock origin and sponsorblock as an extension from the chrome store