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Title is a relationship I see brought up a lot when people are trying to figure out what individual compulsions or tendencies might be at the root of fascism, conservatism, etc. I remember Matt Christman bringing up the trauma of WW1 when describing the rise of European fascism and also describing Glenn Beck's awful Xmas special coming from a trauma-inspired hyper-sentimentality. (The state of Israel seems relevant here too but it feels super obvious and uninteresting to add it)

It makes a kind of intuitive sense to me, this idea that wounded people who lack the emotional vocabulary understand how they are hurt would propagate their trauma onto others and let this drive their politics. But I'm also annoying and therefore cautious of things that make intuitive sense, and this feels a little too "just-so."

I dunno, this site has a bunch of smarty pantses who have read about more things than funny-looking animals, which is all I know. Has anyone read anything or have anything to share about this relationship? I like a good narrative and it is a very compelling one

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

I suspect that trauma is being a tool of reactionaries to create more reactionaries. Imagine starving and having the media tell you it's because of X-men (lgbt+, other race, other religion, ect). European elites told their citizens that god was punishing them because the Jews in the 15th(?) century, so the Jews were expelled. Over time the elite began to realize they could escape judgement for poor leadership and remain unquestioned as long as there was an "other" they could blame and punish. The leadership did not wish to be judge, so the leadership found a scapegoat.

During the rise of industrialization through capitalism, they need more scapegoats, so they found more. By indicating to people that wealth and private property were signs of good morals, they were able to claim a moral high ground in the eyes of the traumatized. So by spreading this logic in areas where the population hadn't yet recovered from a shock, they are able to spread fascism. Lots of countries have dealt with trauma without turning fascist. Trauma can absolutely help create fascists though.

Trauma to create fascism is basally a few steps:

Step 1:

Man made trauma, economic, drug wars, colonization, slavery, cyclical capitalist crisis, war, disease

Step 2:

Blame the poor, or other, and flaunt wealth, so they know that the holder of the wealth is the good guy, not a thief.

Step 3:

Tie aid for recovery to demonstration of fascists ideas so that only fascists can thrive.