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[–] [email protected] 71 points 2 months ago (5 children)

“U.S. science is perceived to be—and is—losing the race for global STEM leadership,” McNutt said. A country’s strength in science, she argued, shapes its defense capacities as well as its ability to spread its values abroad.

lol even the science foundation people have to justify stuff by saying it'll be good for imperialism

[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 months ago (1 children)

even the science foundation people have to justify stuff by saying it'll be good for imperialism

astronaut-1

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago
[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The US is spreading genocide just fine; I’m not sure what “values” she thinks are in danger of not being spread.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 months ago

Have you considered the horror of the US being unable to do as much genocide in the future???

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The value of liberals in other countries being infatuated with the US. And all enemies of the US being dead (and slandered in the US controlled press).

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 months ago

Too anybody actually knowledgeable, the U.S. has 'lost' STEM leadership, particularly in the materials sciences.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

Ronald: "I'm gonna McNutt."

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

lol even the science foundation people have to justify stuff by saying it'll be good for imperialism

One of my favourite figures in science was the American chemist Harrison Brown. Not only was he a very good chemist, but he had a knack for basically scamming the US military into funding important research that he privately knew could never be applied to weapons. And he didn't just do that scamming for his own projects, but he applied those scamming skills to help his colleagues get funding for theirs. He was a one-man reverse-military-industrial-complex.

Brown was also the PhD advisor for Claire Patterson, the man who figured out how old Earth is by comparing isotopes of uranium and lead. During that research he developed the world's first proper cleanroom protocols for chemists. He later spearheaded the fight against the use of lead in consumer products (paint, toys, solder, gasoline, etc) after discovering how prevalent it was during his experiments to figure out the age of Earth. He personally travelled the entire world to gather samples to prove that lead pollution was a relatively recent phenomenon cause by industrial activity, and not something naturally-occuring as the oil companies and their hired guns were arguing.