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Why Karl Marx Desperately Needed Jordan Peterson's Advice - Foundation for Economic Education (web.archive.org)

submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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I audibly guffawed when I saw the title

I didn't post in dunk tank because the concept, title and byline are so silly that you can't get upset with it.

"You are right Comrade Peterson, I will clean my room and abandon this "communism" nonsense I was cooking up immediately."

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

M. Proudhon has the misfortune of being peculiarly misunderstood in Europe. In France, he has the right to be a bad economist, because he is reputed to be a good German philosopher. In Germany, he has the right to be a bad philosopher, because he is reputed to be one of the ablest French economists. Being both German and economist at the same time, we desire to protest against this double error.

—Karl Marx, Foreword to The Poverty of Philosophy

I feel like this somehow applies to Jordan Peterson.

M. Proudhon's work is not just a treatise on political economy, an ordinary book; it is a bible. "Mysteries", "Secrets Wrested from the Bosom of God", "Revelations" – it lacks nothing. But as prophets are discussed nowadays more conscientiously than profane writers, the reader must resign himself to going with us through the arid and gloomy eruditions of "Genesis", in order to ascend later, with M. Proudhon, into the ethereal and fertile realm of super-socialism.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I was going to say Marx would've dunked on Peterson in his signature dunking way, and here indeed is the proof.

The only sad thing about Marx not getting Peterson's advice is that we missed out on the incredible put downs he would've responded with. marx-war

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

M. Proudhon has the misfortune of being peculiarly misunderstood in Europe. In France, he has the right to be a bad economist, because he is reputed to be a good German philosopher. In Germany, he has the right to be a bad philosopher, because he is reputed to be one of the ablest French economists. Being both German and economist at the same time, we desire to protest against this double error.

This is one of the hardest dunks i ever read, hell, Marx even went as far as to write a dunk book about guy in the guy own native language just to make the puns and points land even harder. Absolute chad.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Also the title is itself an inversion of the book being critiqued. Proudhon’s The Philosophy of Poverty became Marx’s The Poverty of Philosophy, which is just chefs-kiss

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

Yeah i meant this too.