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The Chinese studio granted early access on the condition that topics like “feminist propaganda” and “Covid-19” go unmentioned. What followed is the Streisand effect in full force.

“I feel that it only served to bring more attention on Game Science’s culture of sexism,” linktothepabst says. “All they had to do was let the game speak for itself, but it came off, to me, like an own goal, effectively stoking the flames between the people who were using this game as weapon against ‘wokeness in games’ and those who can level-headedly either enjoy the game and criticize GS or just ignore the game altogether.”

It’s the Streisand effect in full force: Try to hide something, and it becomes all the more visible. “Nobody was going to bring up Chinese politics unprompted,” Zhong says, “but the topic was there as soon as they released those guidelines.”

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[–] [email protected] 122 points 2 months ago (3 children)

China has a weird approach to misogyny. Women are both empowered and belittled, and it's all over the media. Anybody who's read the three body problem trilogy (especially book 3) can attest to this.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Especially book 3?? I stopped reading after the second because it was too much, it gets worse? wtf

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yes, so much worse, directed at both men for not being manly enough and women for being... well, not manly men.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

I wrote off the novel when the author said that the Chinese people weren't ready for democracy

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago

The start of this very short thread is:

China has a weird approach to misogyny.

I assume that's what gets worse.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The video series tried so hard to downplay that aspect of the books, but it felt like their overall plan was to plaster over & repaint the stains... until the whole thing was rotted through and the mask just slid right off. 😬

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Don't bother with video series.

Read the content to enjoy what value exists, and criticize what issues exist. Reading is not voting or aligning, it's observing.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

I agree, but with a caveat. Pirate things from people who publicly espouse shitty views. Purchasing it is justifying it. JK Rowling has explicitly said she feels more empowered to be awful because people keep buying Harry Potter stuff.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago

Fandom is endorsement; the HP IP has become a huge anti-trans flag.

Every time people invoke it, they wave that flag some more, and mark it as an acceptable thing to stand under.

Let it die, both financially and culturally.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago
[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

We're talking about pirating books? Nah, go to a library. They need the numbers to get funding.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

All of what you said is true, and I mildly regret giving the video series a chance, NGL. Also, that last bit doesn't really jive with totalitarian states like PRC's China. 😶

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Huh? What do you mean about the last bit

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Reading is not voting or aligning

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Oh, well, fuckem, why would I consider them?

I don't think about totalitarian states at all, outside of specific conversations about em

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Because, that's where the author is from? 😶

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's fair but my original comment in thread was my personal opinion on consuming written content.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I'm not sure you're grasping the weight of the fact that such a work of post-hunanism fiction even made it out of China at all, given the government's centuries-long tradition of heavily-filtering "art" in every form...

(edit: I'm leaving the misspelling in for the stupid pun.)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No, I agree, that's of interest. But my comment was my opinion about how the rest of us can consume written media.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Oh, I didn't know that you were excluding 1.4B people in the general statement. My bad. 😅

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Obviously as a western commenter, sharing my own opinion on media consumption, I'm only speaking to the sphere of ... Reality, which I inhabit.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There's so much to unpack there. 😅

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Who cares?

Like I didn't think of the Taliban when I wrote it either.

Shared my opinion for the world I live in.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I read the whole series and somehow missed this, I did chalk up a lot of things to "must be a chinese cultural thing", like the whole idea of all nations actually working together or globally banning "escapism" and just suspended my disbelief, so maybe I glossed over that bit as well. Is there a good article that dives into this?

E: Found this article, that goes into it as well as other issues, well worth a read