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Scientific American makes presidential endorsement for second time in 179 years (www.independent.co.uk)

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I've been saying this for a long time – the working class is no longer culturally aligned with the left after it became so serious about not tolerating rude, crude, insensitive men.

Those are working class men.

Politically opposing the break room behavior of the guys you claim to represent doesn't work well. I still think there are enough of them in principle in support of various rights that they would make up a good majority of it was just about that, but the 2010's push to punish insulting humor and misgendering lost too many, it's now only supported by a minority of working class men. That is why going as far as Trump became a viable option for the GOP.

The difference between Bush and Trump represents, to me, the difference between two things. The working class's support for "live and let live" style rights to be with and become what you want, and in contrast is their objection to the expansion of "don't be rude, shut up, play along" style restrictions on speech in various social arenas.

I really believe that if the left had clearly rejected the wesk minority's desire for.enforcement of political correctness, it would have either a more comfortable lead, or a close race against someone less extreme.

The left rejected their base.

Because they were crude.

Instead of changing course, the left would rather just judge and lose. "Look at those men! They are not ethical! They are not smart! They shouldn't choose him over us! We are better for them!"

But you make no sacrifice to win them back.

You'd rather roll your eyes, sigh, and let it happen.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

This is exactly what I’ve seen in Appalachian coal country. I once sat with a man who cried his eyes out because of the decision to call Florida for Bush. That same man died a Republican.

In my own family, when I was a kid they were all democrats. Now they’re all republicans. Of course that also has to do with their religious views and the bigotry that comes with that.

What you’re saying here is a big part of it though. “They called us hillbillies and inbred hicks all our lives, and now we can’t say anyone is a fairy? I learned to laugh at myself and now I have to hold my tongue for other people?!”

I didn’t just make that up. I’ve heard several variations of that since the 2010s when the big switch kicked into overdrive.

I’ll also say that racism had a big part in the shift. A man with the middle name Hussein was elected 7 years after 9/11 and that man was black. It caused a lot of white brains to short out.