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Help me understand the CIA's role in US foreign policy toward Israel (hexbear.net)

submitted 1 month ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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I've read several news stories talking about the CIA's attempts at negotiations with the Israeli government, parallel with the US State Department's incredibly brazen charades, lies, coverups, and stonewalling. I've heard a couple times that the CIA has been actually attempting to move things back toward the status quo.

Now I see they've trotted out Obama's CIA director to go on CBS Sunday Morning to talk about Israel's terror attacks on Lebanon and directly call it terrorism. That's got to be coordinated with the current agency, and comes across as very intentional signaling. Matthew Miller is basically acting like nothing happened, while the CIA is publicly calling Israel a terrorist state.

My question is why? What are their incentives here? Are these stories just PR bullshit by the CIA? What does the CIA stand to lose in an all-out regional war, that makes them willing to go around the President and apparently make the only real efforts to negotiate?

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

The US wants to have their cake and eat it too. They want a right-wing, outwardly hostile state in the region to destabilize it's neighbors, but they do not want it so hostile that the regional and global community decide it needs to be put down.

I think the CIA is probably speaking the true intentions of the US. They're probably afraid they are going to lose control of Israel and the situation in general, and thus possibly lose their greatest asset in the region, or at the very least cause further damage to the US's public image by proxy.

Just my thoughts, I'm not an expert or anything.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Have we not already “lost control” as you say.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I mean I think the US has lost control. The tail is definitely wagging the dog in Israel. If the US were to cut off supplies and guns to Israel or put stipulations on it's use of said guns and supplies it would not just say "oh okay thank you for the support so far" it would go nuclear, figuratively and possibly literally.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah. It’s reminding me of all our power vacuum plays. Eventually they become fascists or terrorists and we are stuck warring what we created. Ughh

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

If not by design, it's a feature of all NATO ruling class decisions thus far, so the rest of the world has every right to reject it and proceed... The main risk being the potentially thermonuclear tantrum that could precipitate...