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I've read several news stories talking about the CIA's attempts at negotiations with the Israeli government, parallel with the US State Department's incredibly brazen charades, lies, coverups, and stonewalling. I've heard a couple times that the CIA has been actually attempting to move things back toward the status quo.

Now I see they've trotted out Obama's CIA director to go on CBS Sunday Morning to talk about Israel's terror attacks on Lebanon and directly call it terrorism. That's got to be coordinated with the current agency, and comes across as very intentional signaling. Matthew Miller is basically acting like nothing happened, while the CIA is publicly calling Israel a terrorist state.

My question is why? What are their incentives here? Are these stories just PR bullshit by the CIA? What does the CIA stand to lose in an all-out regional war, that makes them willing to go around the President and apparently make the only real efforts to negotiate?

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

James Angleton is historically the most important individual we know of, he managed the Israeli account as head of Counterintelligence at CIA during and after the Kennedy years. His testimony to the Church Committee reads as an admission of Israel's role and interest in seeing JFK dead. While far from perfect, for Kennedy nuclear proliferation was an obstacle to peace, and an existential threat obviously. Angleton has no less than 2, possibly 3 statues in Israel. None in the US. One overlooks Jerusalem from foothills outside the city.

Basically Zionist got the bomb and they got all the blackmail and plenty of operations outsourced to Mossad, Epstein is very plausibly Mossad, etc.

There are networks and associations between people which supercede a lot of this though, it's unclear how much going on today is "CIA" versus the organized criminals, "terrorists", foreign intelligence services, and business interests they've flooded with cash, guns, and technology for decades. There's possibly just enough parties with resources now that we can't really make much sense of specifics in real time