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Diplomats walk out on Israeli prime minister’s speech at UN to protest against devastating war on Gaza and latest attacks on Lebanon

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[–] [email protected] 138 points 5 days ago (4 children)

including scores of women and children

This always assumes that there are no civilian men. I get that men are the ones usually conscripted, but... that's always seemed weird to me.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 5 days ago (2 children)

It makes for a more defensible argument. No sane person is going to argue that a 4 year old child is an enemy combatant. But a 20 year old male? It's easy to argue they could have been an enemy combatant and so maybe the numbers are inflated. Saying 1000 people can be interpreted as 999 enemies and only 1 civilian casualty. Saying 1000 women and children is usually interpreted as 1000 innocent lives lost.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, that's true, but super fucked that women get the innocence of children and men are assumed to be not innocent in any situation.

Life is harsh when you're a guy.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Given the Israeli position on military rape, it's just a different flavor of attrocity.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

And they kill women.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 days ago

But a 20 year old male? It’s easy to argue they could have been an enemy combatan

The age old problem of "excess males" solved by declaring open season on anyone with facial hair.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 5 days ago (2 children)

In Gaza casualty numbers any adult man is assumed to be a combatant by Isreal.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 days ago (1 children)

And a child is assumed to be a future combatant.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 days ago (1 children)

And woman a combatant factory?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

They’ll probably start calling grains of sand terrorists.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 days ago

Anyone past puberty actually.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 days ago

Call to emotion, nothing else. Women and children "sounds" worse than "people" dying.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago

I mean, a score is 20. I think that means they've killed two thousand scores of people. "Scores of women and children" doesn't really do that justice.