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To make solar power viable, we need a solution for overnight energy storage.

Batteries are complicated.

Do you know what isn't? Water go up. stonks-up

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago (3 children)

It's fine for places that have a lot of water and hills

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

you can use saltwater for it though, doesn't need to be fresh water or treated in any way, just a physical medium to make turbine go brrr

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Machinery and saltwater generally don't mix very well. And you'd still need to make a saltwater lake somewhere uphill.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

yeah but in this case it's just a pipe and a turbine it's gotta make move

And you'd still need to make a saltwater lake somewhere uphill.

water tanks tho

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

Saltwater damages turbine blades very fast. Using saltwater would require some very different engineering for the turbine blades, which might not be worth the benefit of being able to use saltwater.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Turbines are precision machines. And if we're talking utility scale installations here, we want an upper reservoir measured in thousands of cubic meters, not liters.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

The pipe and turbine would break so fast it's basically useless. Also, tanks are waaaay more expensive than digging a hole in the ground.

There's good reasons why freshwater open reservoirs are used. If tanks and brine were usable, people already would be using them.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

For places without water, what's wrong with importing a bunch once? Evaporation suppressors exist to help with hotter climates.

You're probably right about the hills. Building a water tower that can hold an entire lake seems inefficient.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (3 children)

How are you importing an entire lake?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago

Truck? 5G? Just let a tiny faucet run a long time? IDK. kitty-cri-potato

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

from somewhere import lake

lake.flow()

It's just that simple!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

Use a very long hose.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

You don't really need huge volumes of water, a 5GW hydro storage proposal in Australia will require 38 gigalitres, or 0.038 cubic kilometres. At a depth of ten metres, that's a 2km circle (or rather, two ~1.5km circular reservoirs).

Arizona uses ~8500 gigalitres a year to put that in comparison.