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To make solar power viable, we need a solution for overnight energy storage.

Batteries are complicated.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's good. Like hydro power, the viability is going to be highly site-specific. But it's a bunch of well known parts, so if some geological engineers say a particular pumped hydro installation makes sense, I'm going to trust them.

I think battery and synthetic fuel technologies will continue to improve, and the range of places where pumped hydro is the better choice will shrink over time. But in the best sites, I expect it's probably going to stay the most efficient choice for a very long time, the same way the biggest hydro power plants dwarf the biggest nuclear plants.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Why would the range of places shrink over time?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Because the alternatives get better.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What alternatives at that scale?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Batteries and synthetic fuels?

Did you read the post you're replying to?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I find reading interferes with the posting monkey-typewriter

I don't think batteries are designed for the duration of storage you want a backup of pumped hydro for, and it will remain to be seen what a synthetic fuel industry looks like (and whether it would ever be cost competitive with pumped hydro at the places where pumped hydro is currently viable).