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Expect anarchy.

If at any point you find yourself typing. "how do you expect society to work without the state?" or anything similar click on the link below.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Are you aiming to have 350 million self proclaimed kings that do as they dam will please and think you will be able to have a functioning society with functioning infrastructure and functioning services?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

And do you think that state of affairs is not one where people will abuse the (lack of) system for their own gains and the detriment of others?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Anarchy is not the lack of society. It is the lack of authority.
It is not the lack of responsibility.
It is not do whatever you like.

It is society based on strong interpersonal relationships formed and maintained without authority. Everyone is responsible for everyone else and no-one gets to abuse others (as that would be archic).

if you want to read further here is a link: https://anarchistfaq.org/afaq/sectionA.html#seca1

[–] [email protected] 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, I agree that there are enticing ideas in anarchy. But I can also see that "wholesale" anarchy won’t work in the world we live in. I can see that because the fascists are trying to create anarchy as a state it’s easier for them to abuse.

But that doesn’t mean there aren’t ideas from anarchy worth working with. I’m sure there are ideas from anarchy that could improve society - if they are implemented in a way that works.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

fascists are trying to create anarchy as a state

I hope you know how stupid this sentence sounds to me.

Anarchy is the opposition to hierarchy (or just archy if you're in a hurry). The state is a collection of institutions with the clear purpose of maintaining a divide between the rulers and the ruled. It is by definition archic. Just like capitalism. just like fascism.

The idea that anarchy won't work in the world we live in comes from a lack of faith in people and the future. Sure it will require effort. It will take time to educate people. But to say it's impossible is to give up on the idea of a better world.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I hope you know how stupid this sentence sounds to me.

I hope you don’t expect me to care. I hope you know that state has more than one meaning. I hope you know that you misunderstood.

The idea that anarchy won't work in the world we live in comes from a lack of faith in people and the future. Sure it will require effort. It will take time to educate people. But to say it's impossible is to give up on the idea of a better world.

You refer to fascists, yes? We agree that fascists exist, yes? Do you expect fascists to agree to be educated in and conform to these ideas? That is one example.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 35 minutes ago

Yeah I guess I did. I just saw that collection of words and my mind jumped to "Lib said dumb thing".

You refer to fascists, yes?

I refer to people. Everybody.

Do you expect fascists to agree to be educated in and conform to these ideas?

The ones alive right now? Probably not, but who knows. I don't have a solution against the tide of fascism rising in the states. The only one I can think of goes against my principles as a pacifist. But I believe that humans are a result of the conditions they are raised in. Some conditions create fascists, others create anarchists. I just want there to be more of the latter and less of the former.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I hope you know that state has more than one meaning.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

I don't see how trying to "create anarchy as a state" can use state in any other meaning.

"create a state of anarchy" would work but that's not how it's phrased.

Looking more at the comment I could also see it as two separate sentences that could also work: "[..] create anarchy. as a state it's [..]". But I jumped to explaining what anarchy is because it's so common for people to not know.