Vote for the lesser evil already! You have to choose between getting kicked in the shin, vs getting kicked in the nuts.
Your choice, but don't let others choose for you! Use your freedom and protect it. Vote!
this post was submitted on 25 Oct 2024
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Expect anarchy.
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I already made this in response to another commenter in this thread.
the following is gop propaganda. enjoy!
Does GOP propaganda usually call them fascists?
or include the words "Fuck the state"?
yes
I guess I'll need to make my next meme something that fixes this misconception. Got any ideas?
Sorry, no. It’s much easier to criticize than to create.
Oh well. Guess I'll try and come up with something.
I believe in you.
What about this?
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Fix the election system.
How?
In my view any form of elective democracy ultimately undermines peoples own self-actualization. By having voting be the "thing you do to make the country work" it removes all individual responsibility for the state of the society and allows powerful people to manipulate the uneducated masses to their whims. Ultimately leading to fascism.
Are you aiming to have 350 million self proclaimed kings that do as they dam will please and think you will be able to have a functioning society with functioning infrastructure and functioning services?
And do you think that state of affairs is not one where people will abuse the (lack of) system for their own gains and the detriment of others?
Anarchy is not the lack of society. It is the lack of authority.
It is not the lack of responsibility.
It is not do whatever you like.
It is society based on strong interpersonal relationships formed and maintained without authority. Everyone is responsible for everyone else and no-one gets to abuse others (as that would be archic).
if you want to read further here is a link: https://anarchistfaq.org/afaq/sectionA.html#seca1
Yes, I agree that there are enticing ideas in anarchy. But I can also see that "wholesale" anarchy won’t work in the world we live in. I can see that because the fascists are trying to create anarchy as a state it’s easier for them to abuse.
But that doesn’t mean there aren’t ideas from anarchy worth working with. I’m sure there are ideas from anarchy that could improve society - if they are implemented in a way that works.
fascists are trying to create anarchy as a state
I hope you know how stupid this sentence sounds to me.
Anarchy is the opposition to hierarchy (or just archy if you're in a hurry). The state is a collection of institutions with the clear purpose of maintaining a divide between the rulers and the ruled. It is by definition archic. Just like capitalism. just like fascism.
The idea that anarchy won't work in the world we live in comes from a lack of faith in people and the future. Sure it will require effort. It will take time to educate people. But to say it's impossible is to give up on the idea of a better world.
I hope you know that state has more than one meaning.
I don't see how trying to "create anarchy as a state" can use state in any other meaning.
"create a state of anarchy" would work but that's not how it's phrased.
Looking more at the comment I could also see it as two separate sentences that could also work: "[..] create anarchy. as a state it's [..]". But I jumped to explaining what anarchy is because it's so common for people to not know.
Lol! Being an "anarchist" these days means you are a Democrat that likes to cosplay.
You guys have lost the fucking plot.
Honestly, I want Trump to win, it might actually kick some of the actual anarchists out of complacency.
I wanted him to win in 2016 because I wanted to see the system implode. IT DID! At least it started to. Then you all complained about it! And still are!
You aren't fucking anarchists.
Ah yes. Accelerationism. Reach rock bottom in the hopes it will get people to move themselves. I have played around with the idea but in the end having a state that is hostile to anarchist movements will be a lot harder to organize under than a state that does not care.
Oppression is a good motivator for revolutionary action but it also inhibits it. I think the trade off is not worth it. The "kick out of complacency" will be offset by "being arrested by the fascist state". And the only the actual anarchists and other anti-fascists will be encouraged by oppression. Everyone else will be too afraid to join.