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“Soon, there may be no one left even to use the weapons they give us,” said the volunteer, Yevhen Tuzov, “because all our Western partners want is for us to fight until the last Ukrainian.” (www.nytimes.com)

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think there are strong signs that the US is already pivoting away from Ukraine. It's not their core interest, and they're far more worried about China than Russia. There were two schools of thought in US. One said that they need to take on China directly, and the other that it would be better to break up Russia first and surround China from the west cutting it off from military support and resources that Russia affords. The latter camp won and that's why the war in Ukraine started. The US miscalculated that Russia would be a relatively easy nut to crack, and then they could choke off China from all sides while plundering Russian resources in the process. RAND basically laid it all out in a paper they put out https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html

Now it's becoming clear that Russia hasn't been weakened, and that Ukraine will lose the war. So, US will leave Europe holding the bag while they move on to do fuckery in Asia. Meanwhile, Europe does not have the means to keep the war going on their own. So, Russia will be dictating terms in the end.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I hope you are right. That would be the good ending. "The victory of colonialism, even in the farthest corners of the earth, is a defeat for us, and the victory of freedom anywhere is a victory for us." -- Abd el-Krim

it would be better to break up Russia first

So it wasn't just some liberals on Reddit daydreaming of breaking up Russia, it was actual policy?! This amount of delusional thinking from the top can only be explained by racism and chauvinism. Either that or a lot of nepotism and corruption.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 18 hours ago

A lot of this thinking stems from the brief unipolar moment after the dissolution of USSR. The west saw this as the ultimate victory of the liberal world order led by the US. Russia was on its knees, and there was no other nation that could come even close to challenging the US. There was no need for diplomacy in that environment since the US was able to simply subjugate countries to their will.

This period constitutes the formative years for most of the managers of the empire like Blinken, Nuland, Sullivan, and so on. The only world they've known is the one where the US can simply dictate terms to the rest of the world. As the world evolved in the past decades, their thinking never adjusted to new reality. They bought into their own narrative of Russia being a gas station with nukes and China being constantly on the verge of collapse. Now it's just an echo chamber of people telling each other what they want to hear.