cross-posted from: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/30986085
Poor one out for all your LGBTQ+ homies in America, they're about to be hunted for sport.
this post was submitted on 06 Nov 2024
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Fucking insane people are blaming voters and not the Dem candidate who spent most of her time talking about how she's for things we called fascist and evil 4 years ago...
But we all knew regardless of what happened one thing would never change:
"Moderates" would blame progressives and say this proves the Dem party needs to be more conservative.
It doesn't fucking work, stop insisting "lesser of two evils" will ever be a valid campaign strategy when the "greater evil" isn't currently in office.
Should it work? Sure, it should.
But it fucking doesn't so why do we keep trying it?
Ah the progressive vote, never big enough to change a single policy for, just big enough to scapegoat all of their errors onto.
Look at exit polling and progressives are the most reliable Dem voting block...
Where you're confused is that progressive policy also gets traditional non voters out to the polls.
So if someone only ever looks at the surface and doesn't really understand American politics, I can understand why they'd conflate that with progressives never voting.
But that's not what it is.
Look at 08 Obama, or even 92 Clinton.
We know what works, the DNC just refuses to let a candidate like that into the general.
Clinton repealed glass-steagall setting the stage for the meltdown of 08 and what happened since (the exponential growth of the billionaire class) eventually leading to trump.
Obama made fun of a vindictive litte narcissist causing him to decide then and there to run for office. And did not nearly do enough with his wave of support, he was a true democrat.. slow as fuck.
And then Biden, anemic response to the exponential rise of fascism under his watch.. his legacy will be letting trump take over and not putting the boot on the project 2025 crowd.
I feel sorry for the 60 million Americans that voted against trump, but they need to realize they are surrounded by fascists and people that think it's not important that their country is turning fascist... Same as in Germany in the interbellum.
Compare the occupation of Crimea to the Anschluss and the war in Ukraine like the split of Poland, china showing their muscles in asia and the state of the world is worrying... It feels like I was taught about this in school.
Like I said in the other reply:
The topic currently is how a Dem can win an election.
While it would be best to have an authentic progressive, at least one smart enough to lie (like Obama and Bill) would have beat trump.
True.. I also think that Dems should be hammering their victories more. It's like they fail in public and their successes happen in the shadows.
"Look, the financials for all normal people are shit, the whole world has had massive inflation, we had less than the rest of the world, and if we had not had to clean up trumps shit and massive debts, it would have been even better. Meanwhile the rich got richer by firing you or your family members, refusing proper pay bumps, outsourcing your jobs and gouging you on prices while making record profits. We are mad too, at the republicans and their tax cuts for their mega donors, at the corporations for treating you unfairly while stealing from you... Point your anger at them...
You deserve a living wage, deserve to not worry about your health or going bankrupt by seeing a doctor, you deserve good and affordable housing and clean drinking water. We will tax the ultra wealthy and make them pay their fair share, stop their tax dodging and shady constructions. And we will show them they are not above the law.
Are you calling Bill Clinton a progressive? He's the one that really put the DNC on their fast track to the right. he was playing from the same playbook as Tony Blair. He won in 92 because HW Bush reneged hard on his 88 campaign slogan of "No New Taxes"
In 1992 he was a young charismatic politician running on a progressive platform.
How he disappointed people while in office is important, but not really relevant when we're just talking about how to win an election.
The donor class is why. The US is ruled by corporations and billionaires. The entire capital class threw their weight behind trump.. money rules everything so the Dems need to Pander to the rich and corpos.
They didn't just pay trump
They paid the only other option too, knowing that what she would have to do for the money helped Trump's chances more than donating to him directly would.
Kamala and the DNC were obsessed with raising money, but none of them know how to spend it to get votes.
They got blinded by the dollar signs and we're all fucked. Doubly so if we don't use the next four years to plan for 2028. If current DNC leadership won't step down for a new direction it's time to start a new party
Exactly the rich donate to both sides to get a seat at the table and steer the conversation. Money is so important that the rich get to dictate the direction, else the money dries up.
But she lost the popular vote.. from a convicted felon adjudicated rapist.. I still can't...